Prison Education Initiative
jane
January 25, 2004 - 09:27 am















Prison Education Initiative

"What I hope is that people reading this book will bear in mind that we are human beings first,
inmates second." -- Bonnie Jean Foreshaw

"This book is a freight train of hope, truth and art." -- Andy Thibault on "Couldn't Keep It To Myself"


Author Interview: Wally Lamb
Responses from Nancy Birkla

Responses from Dale Griffith

Responses from Nancy Whiteley


As a result of our discussion in Wally Lamb's "Couldn't Keep it to Myself" and the PBS Program Clubs "What I Want My Words To Do To You," many people expressed the desire to somehow help.

Wally Lamb has already begun. He printed out parts of the discussion to take back to the women writers still incarcerated! Here is his report:

"The inmate writers, both those in the book and those not, are very interested in reading the various comments. They're shut off from the outside world in so many ways, and they're so often given the message that they don't matter, that they were shocked and thrilled by the volume and depth of responses to the book.

When I visited last I brought a fairly thick pile of the SeniorNet printouts and the women's eyes popped out. "That many people read our writing?" one of them asked. She was incredulous.

Dale [Griffith the teacher at the prison] had the idea to put the printouts in a binder and leave them in the library. I hear from her that there's been quite a lot of activity around that notebook this week.

Getting the message that others care and are interested in them is particularly significant for Brenda Medina, Barbara Lane, and Michelle Jessamy. Others, too, whose work you don't know. (Brenda wants her own copy, she says, for her scrap book.)"

We can write the authors currently imprisoned, click HERE for more information!




Congratulations
for the two big new awards to
Wally Lamb
and the
Authors of Couldn't Keep it to Myself
The CT Library Association has chosen "Couldn't Keep it to Myself" as their "One Book" for 2004. Not only will all conference members be asked to read this one book prior to their spring convention, to be attended by about 1000 members, but they will all discuss the book together at the conference. Also scheduled for the conference is a speaking/book-reading session by Wally Lamb and several of the book's contributors.

After the conference, the book will be showcased in every public library in the state of CT for the endurance of 2004.

Here's a link to an announcement from the President of the CT Library Association:
Connecticut Library Association Announcement


AND
The selection of Barbara Lane, one of the authors nominated by author Wally Lamb from his "Couldn't Keep it to Myself," as the 2004 PEN Freedom in Writing Award of 25,000 from the Paul Newman Foundation.

Freedom to Write's Program Director Larry Siems, said, that this was " honoring Barbara Parsons Lane -- and by extension, all of the women who poured their lives and their hearts into 'Couldn't Keep It To Myself.'"
Inmate Wins Writing Award
By David Pencek
Norwich Bulletin


Prison Grant Initiative Workshop


Resource Links
This discussion will also offer opportunities to those who would like to help by:
  • offering participants information and opportunities to help,
  • communication and news from guest speakers on prison issues,
  • opportunities to reach out to those still incarcerated, through writing through the addresses provided, and hopefully, the chance to read and react to new writings from the prison.


  • The SeniorNet Organization does not endorse specific lobbying or political activities.
    Participants on our web site may share their own views and activities.

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    Ginny
    February 1, 2004 - 06:27 am
    A bright good morning to you and welcome to what we hope will be a place where we CAN, right here online, make a difference! We have a LOT coming, but wanted to be sure we got this open first.

    As you can see in the heading there is a LOT we can do, and tons more coming, and we hope you'll join us and see what difference we might make!

    Much more to come, ideas on how you can be included, guest speakers, and much more, sign in if you're interested in helping in some way!

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    February 1, 2004 - 08:05 am
    Hi everyone! I've missed all of you "SeniorNeters" that I met through the CKITM discussion back in December, and although I'm a little shorter on time these days, I definately want to officially check-in as a member of this discussion!

    I'd like it to be known that my motivation for being here is not necessarily to provoke advocacy or even to sway personal opinion concerning various prison issues. Mostly I'm interested in presenting valuable sources of information concerning the value of prison education and rehabilitation, not only their impact on prisoners but the ultimate benefits to society if inmates comes out of prison in better shape than when they arrive.

    I feel so excited and blessed to have this opportunity!

    Peace, love, and best to all -- NAB :0)

    annafair
    February 1, 2004 - 09:20 am
    You are right this is an oppportunity ...to learn more, understand better and finally do something to better the rehabilitation process. And when we help others ...in many ways it is ourselves we help most...looking forward to the future..anna

    GingerWright
    February 1, 2004 - 09:58 am
    Good Morning Ginny, Nancy, and Anna it is good to see all of you here. I am looking forward to seeing what has been and is going on at York en al.

    I love the words in the heading: "What I hope is that people reading this book will bear in mind that we are human beings first, inmates second." -- Bonnie Jean Foreshaw as to me these words pertain to All human beings from the riches man in the world to the poorest, from the most educated to the one who needs to be educated, "we Are human beings first".

    I also love this Poem by Brenda (Brendalis) Medina

    Beyond the steel door, there's a mourning 
    Grief for misplaced innocence 

    Past the mourning, there's a darkness Filled with fears that make no sense.

    Beyond the darkness, there's a bright light Illuminating half the way.

    Past the bright light, there's a longing One that will not go away

    Beyond the longing , there is silence Stillness that may save my soul,

    Beyond the stillness, there's salvation Grace from God to make me whole.


    This will be the closest you may ever get to understanding the feeling of these human beings unless it happens to you And it could as we Never know what tomorrow will bring.

    Ginger

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 1, 2004 - 10:40 am
    What an exciting program. I have such feelings since reading Wally Lambs book. Mostly about Bonnie. I simply dont understand why she is in prison forever. Does not make sense, but I would guess that somehow she was used as an example of some type. I will be anxious to read what is happening and how it is happening. I would assume that each state is quite different in the treatment of prisoners but will hope that Florida is represented in some way.

    ALF
    February 1, 2004 - 10:54 am
    What a blessing you and Ginny are to us and to all of these incarcerated women. Your aim is our goal too. We wish to learn, teach others and assist where we are most needed. We hope that we are "used" in our best capacity, even though not one of knows what that may be until it presents itself.

    Thank you for your time and efforts here.

    Hats
    February 1, 2004 - 11:17 am
    Good Morning All,

    It is very exciting to read about a discussion that is still going on and seems to have a life of its own. Ginger, I like Bonnie's quote too. Brenda's poem also speaks to my heart. I feel very honored to know everyone here.

    BaBi
    February 1, 2004 - 12:07 pm
    I don't know if I'll have much to contribute, but I plan to check in regularly anyway. The purpose here is so important. ...Babi

    patwest
    February 1, 2004 - 12:09 pm
    If you want to read some interesting articles... Check out the ones linked above by Andy Thibault... that Nancy sent us...

    Strong Stuff.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 1, 2004 - 12:38 pm
    Wow -- hello, hello, hello -- how great it is to already see so many familiar names!

    Most of my "stuff" concerning prison education is saved to my office computer at the college, but here are a few links to articles some of you may find interesting:

    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/projects/prison/po111700s1.shtml

    http://www.dcwebconsulting.com/articles/college_courses/college_courses_69.html

    http://www.curenational.org/new/Position/curepo5.html

    One of these articles is a few years old (from 2000, I think), however, examples like the ones provided in the articles (the tangible evidence of the value of prison education) continue today, as unfortunately do the increasing barriers to providing education to prisoners.

    NAB

    pedln
    February 1, 2004 - 01:23 pm
    Welcome back, Nancy. I've just finished reading the links you provided above. They certainly do make a strong case for education in prison. Hopefully we here will become more educated too.

    JoanK
    February 1, 2004 - 04:26 pm
    Hoorah!! I'm so glad this effort is continuing. Thank you, thank you, Ginny, Nancy, and all the great Seniornetters. I'm in.

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 1, 2004 - 05:23 pm
    I'm subscribing here and will be looking in when I can. I've just sold my farm and am trying to find a home to buy nearer to my son. So far I haven't had any luck and have only 60 days to find something and move. So I may not be posting much, but will look in and try to keep up.

    Thank you, Ginny, for spearheading this new activist discussion I pray that good things will happen because of it. Sue

    Ginny
    February 2, 2004 - 08:35 am

    Wow!! This is fabulous, Welcome, All!! Welcome, welcome, what a great turn out here at the beginning, thank all of you for wanting to be involved!!

    I'm so glad to see you, Annafair!! Ginger!! Stephanie!! ALF (Andrea)!! Hats!! Pat!! (thank you for putting up Nancy's links in the heading), Pedln!! SpringCreekFarm – (Sue)!! and to read your wonderfully positive and inspiring thoughts!!!!!!!!! I'm so proud of you, what a joy to see this morning, and I hope others will join us! AND Nancy!!!
    What a JOY to see you again!! Thank you for those articles that's something we can do right now, read those!

    Sue, we appreciate your being here, you and Andy going thru the same thing, moving, selling, we are very pleased you'd put us on your calendar, we need you in this effort!

    Pat has put the articles Nancy brought us in links or html pages and you can see them above, in the heading, let's start by reading Mr. Thibault's fearless thoughts and give our own on it and then I have some more addresses where we can write and express our thoughts, maybe he would like to know about us, too.

    Let's get started by reading those articles and saying our reaction and then I'll come back with more.

    If you'll look up in the heading for a little brown box, you'll find A beautiful page of explanations by Wally Lamb about each of four prisoners and where to write.

    Although you need NOT have participated in either previous discussion to help out here, you might want to go to the library or get a copy of the new paperback edition of Couldn't Keep it to Myself, which comes out this month, to learn more about each person. Thre are only four.

    Those of you who WOULD like to write, we need to discuss different ways we could go about that and what concerns there you might have.

    Let's brainstorm here what we can do, I am SOOO glad to see each of you, it's like a homecoming, isn't it, your own thoughts lifted me up this morning and that's what we will be about here: trying to make a difference positively in any way we can.

    Did you see the Super Bowl? I loved that introductory song You Lift Me Up (with the astronauts?). Gave me chills. That's what we're about, we need that in this country after 9-11, let's see what we can do about it using the power of the internet and volunteer power1

    Steph mentioned different states, I'm proud to report the Governor of SC, in his recent State of the State said he wants Education programs to be mandatory in the State Prisons, for all those prisoners who can take advantage of them, so it IS being seen that education IS one way to change, and we here, when this is over, will also be educated, I am very excited about this discussion, it is a FIRST for SeniorNet and I hope it won't be the last.

    So now, what's your reaction to the Thibault articles, three of which are in the heading here, this morning?

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    February 2, 2004 - 09:00 am
    I wanted to clarify something here -- original credit for providing links to Mr. Thibault's articles goes to one of your own SeniorNetters (I'm pretty sure it was Mal--will correct if I'm wrong), who found them on her own during the CKITM discussion. I did send a link to Thibault's original article that (chronologically) preceded the two that had already posted during the past discussion. Credit for research needs to go where credit is due, huh?

    Happy day to all! NAB :0)

    BaBi
    February 2, 2004 - 09:11 am
    I see that AG Blumenthal casts the onus for the legal action against our writers back on the Dept. of Correction and the Dept. of Admin. Services. He says the decisions are theirs and the cases are simply referred to him for prosecution.

    Has there been any follow-up with the Dept. of Corrections, et al, about their stance on this? I can understand they would want to get some of their outgo back, but this doesn't seem a realistic way to go about it. Society ultimately pays these costs, and society will be much better off if rehabilitated and wage earning individuals emerge from those prisons. ...Babi

    ALF
    February 2, 2004 - 12:32 pm
    The Attorney Gen. also said that he'd be "delighted to meet with the ladies but they hadn't called, or written." Is this true? I find that hard to believe.

    GingerWright
    February 2, 2004 - 03:55 pm
    I believe was a excutive of the Bendix Corp that I worked for who took what we call a parchute (meaning big bucks) and left the Bendix company having to sell out to the Honey well copany so my recomendation is Get him Out as as an excutive of the Prisons for the incarenated and the tax payers benefit.

    JoanK
    February 2, 2004 - 05:08 pm
    I read the articles. Boy, the interview with Blumenthal made me mad. He never said why it made sense to try to collect a million dolars because someone has earned six thousand dollars. Thibault didn't make that clear in his other articles either.

    ALF
    February 2, 2004 - 06:40 pm
    Blumenthal fudged all the questions. Didn't you love this I certainly will meet wiht them, not simply to explain to them or speak at them. I want to liksten to their views." Yeah sure he does. those gals would rip him up and spit 'em out and I'd be standing by, cheering them on.

    We will be out of town for the next week but I will try to find a 'puter somewhere to sign on.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 2, 2004 - 08:29 pm
    I'll be attending a PD workshop at the college (where I work) this Wednesday. The title of the workshop is, "Emerging From The Darkness" and is described as follows:

  • ** A discussion/dialog with a panel of ex-offenders who have "served out." Serving out is when an inmate is not granted parole but instead serves all of his/her sentence before being released back into the community, often with no support, no money, and virtually no help.

    These JCC students and graduates will talk of their struggles, fears, sorrows, and joys as they try to forge a new life after many years behind bars. ***

    I feel so blessed and proud to be a graduate and also a current employee of a college community that believes so strongly in the human potential of any student, regardless of sometimes regretable past mistakes.

    I will report back with highlights of the discussion :0).
  • Ginny
    February 3, 2004 - 05:17 am
    Thank you all for the responses to the Blumenthal article!

    I would like to know, too, Babi, about any recent follow up with the Department of Corrections, I wonder how we can find out? I do know that there is pending legislation THIS MONTH and maybe it would not hurt if we wrote an email or letter to Mike Lawlor who seems to be sympathetic, I spent some time last night contemplating one act of violence and the result, something on television made me think, just think about that and then what YOU'D hope for as a person. In that context (or any context) penalties of $900,000 simply make no sense, I agree with all of you.

    Ginger, thank you for those thoughts on the Bendix Corp, one point there is there is a lot of crime going on behind some facades.

    Andrea, yes we heard, and I thought it was in Nancy's REsponses but I need to reread them, somewhere she did talk about meeting with Attorney General Blumenthal, I agree he's passed the buck so the state needs to get on this, and this pending legistlaion may help?

    Joan, I agree the article is infuriating, and there's one coming out today which will burn the monitor, so be warned, there's lots coming!!

    Andrea, we will miss you as you travel!

    Isn't it funny once you start ON a subject how many times you see things that pertain to it?

    I think we will learn a lot here!!

    Nancy, boy I agree with that, I'm sorry I did not recognize the Thibault articles from the older discussion, all credit to Malryn (I hope) for originating them.

    Misassigned credit is a particular peeve of mine, let's be sure those who do the original work get full credit! Right on!!

    There IS legislation pending, we need to search the Internet and find out when, very complicated "package" bill, Pat can you put that link here to the pending legislation from the old Wally Lamb discussion, in fact will you link both in the heading, the old discussions I and II and the legislation? Here's Wally Lamb on the subject of Blumenthal and the pending legislation:

    Connecticut’s Attorney General, Richard Blumenthal, contends that the state deserves whatever money the writers make (and, apparently, several hundred thousand more) because the women never would have become published authors if Connecticut had not convicted and imprisoned them. In my opinion, this argument blithely dismisses the women’s writing talent and their work ethic and sends them the message that the state is more interested in retribution than rehabilitation. Why are we not sending them the message that hard, honest work brings reward?

    As of now, the lawsuit is pending. Meanwhile, Connecticut’s state legislature has taken up the issue of the women’s right to be paid for their work as part of its prison reform package, which seeks to remove some of the state’s roadblocks to rehabilitation and which it is scheduled for a vote in February of 2004. Those of you who wish to send a letter in support of the York writers may address those letters to the chair of the legislature’s judiciary committee:
    Representative Michael Lawlor
    Legislative Office
    Building, Room 2500
    Hartford, Connecticut 06106-1591
    Email: MLawlor99@juno.com

    The more letters the better, I’m told. Thanks so much for considering this.


    This looks like a promising thing and the time is exactly right for letters from all over to advise this man who appears to want to make good changes how the rest of the country and the world feel about this? Let's write him, if you like, and report back here any answer, I'll tell him about the Governor of SC'c newest proposal, people in other parts of the country need to know what others are doing, too.

    Nancy! How exciting that workshop sounds! We look forward to hearing all about it, this is SUPER!

    I figure we can start out small here, and hopefully attract more and more people, and maybe as we learn more we can do more. At present we can write letters, if you'd like to, research more about what's going on and be very excited to hear Nancy's Workshop entitled "Emerging From the Darkness." Aren't we lucky to have you, Nancy, as ever. What does "PD" mean? Police Department? You can see that education will definitely be taking place HERE! YOU are such an advocate, we are so excited to have you! hahahaah

    ginny

    BaBi
    February 3, 2004 - 12:59 pm
    I don't know, Ginny. Is the State of Connecticut powers-that-be at all interested in the opinions of people from out-of-state? We won't be voting in the Connecticut elections, so why would they listen to us? National public forums and media are more likely to bring pressure to bear where it will do some good...and not just in Connecticut.

    Do you think Andy Thibault might have some suggestions about how SenioNet might be more effective in this area? ..Babi

    tutormentor
    February 3, 2004 - 01:28 pm
    This is a powerful and thought-provoking discussion. I lead a non-profit that tries to keep innercity youth out of the prison system. Unfortunately many of the high poverty neighborhoods of cities like Chicago are dumping grounds for ex-convicts. These turn out to be the role-model for youth, and that makes it difficult to show them the power of education and the other opportunities they have in life. I've read countless articles that show the millions of dollars that are poured into the prison system, compared to the trickle of dollars spent to keep kids from this life. It's frustrating. Yet, there is hope. As people connect in forums like this we create new leaders and new evangelist who will help recruit others to fight this war against poverty, and it's outcomes.

    At www.tutormentorexchange.net we post maps that show where poverty is most concentrated. We use power point charts to show the sequence of services that need to be in anyone of these neighborhoods if kids are to be kept out of jail, and if ex convicts, are to have a path that keeps them from returning to jail.

    As people from different states join together in understanding the problem, my hope is that there will be more people willing to spend time on the solutions.

    Daniel F. Bassill President Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection 800 W. Huron Chicago, Il. 60622

    GingerWright
    February 3, 2004 - 02:47 pm
    Welcome to Senior Net Especialy Our Book discussions tutormentor. I/We are Very fortunate to have you here and hope you will feel the same about us.

    You will be getting an Official Welcome letter from one of our Ambassordors so Please watch for it. If you don't get one let us know here or send me an email and let me know.

    Ginger

    Nancy Birkla
    February 3, 2004 - 09:30 pm
    Here are links to a couple of stories concerning a prison in my own neck of the woods (northern KY).

    Some programs may seem a bit non-traditional, and many folks can't understand having them, but often they are the programs that end up providing a great source of therapy for inmates.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/11/earlyshow/contributors/lauriehibberd/main558134.shtml

    http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/shakespeare/

    Nancy Birkla
    February 3, 2004 - 09:47 pm
    BaBi hit the proverbial nail right on the head by asserting that we have to pay incarceration costs, one way or another, so why not work toward making the investment pay off. It might cost a few dollars more to provide inmates w/an education while they are in prison, but it costs one h-uva lot less than paying for subsequent trips back to prison because individuals can't function any better (after being released) than they did before they arrived.

    The more we pull the plug on funding for education and rehabilitation in our prisons, the higher recedivism rates escalate; it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the math involved in statistical support that prison education pays off in the long run.

    Diane Church
    February 4, 2004 - 12:11 am
    I read such an encouraging article today and, typically, darn it, can't remember the details, like where, but somewhere there is a class called Shakespeare Behind Bars and it's just as it sounds. It's being enormously successful and the inmates are relating to Shakespeare (I never did, alas - maybe should try again). But they're putting on productions and everyone is benefiting enormously.

    As an example, one inmate asked to have his parole postponed, or delayed, because he didn't want to miss a production. Isn't that something!

    I tell you, if you encourage people to stretch themselves beyond what they or anyone might expect, they usually will surprise you and not let you down.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 4, 2004 - 06:25 am
    To Diane Church:

    In your post #28, you tell of an interesting article you'd read about a program called "Shakespeare Behind Bars," but then you said you couldn't remember where you'd read about it.

    Well, if you can believe this one, the two links I posted yesterday, in post #26, are to articles about a Shakespeare Behind Bars program in a KY prison. I'm pretty sure one of the articles is the exact one you told us about in your post!

    Ginny
    February 4, 2004 - 06:32 am
    Diane, welcome!! I am so glad to see you here and I relate to this commpletely: I tell you, if you encourage people to stretch themselves beyond what they or anyone might expect, they usually will surprise you and not let you down.

    And this is so true for anybody at any stage of life. The other day I had to make a payment by phone and the automated voice kept saying GOOD! or ALL RIIGHT! and I thought, jeepers, but you know what? The more it encouraged me and did not discourage me when I made a mistake, (and it was a VERY cumbersome project) the more I wanted to do, in fact I told my husband that type of thing is addictive, I was ready to do anything hahaahah (he, however, was not quite so moved hahahaha) But it's the psychology of the thing, I totally agree, lift people up, much more on this today!

    Thank you for telling us about the Shakespeare Behind Bars! (AND Nancy!! Great minds run together!!) I often find that@ hahahaha

    WELCOME TUTORMENTOR, I loved this, "This is a powerful and thought-provoking discussion. I lead a non-profit that tries to keep innercity youth out of the prison system. " Thank you so much for that, I agree with Ginger we're lucky to have you here and would like to hear more about your work, we would like to look on this (thanks to Nancy Birkla) as a Resource for people wanting to find out more about Prison Education and Reform and what they might do.

    Nancy, thank you for those links, I have asked Pat to put them in the heading, we'll soon have a wonderful page of Resources which we can index.

    Good point, Babi, we don't vote in CT, but I personally have a feeling that knowing what South Carolina is doing should make an impression on them.

    On Thibault, a wonderful question, Babi, would you be willing to write him and invite him in here? I'd like to hear from him on any follow up to his fiery articles, etc?

    Nancy, we are all ears to hear about your Professional Development Workshop today, on "Emerging From The Darkness." Can't wait to hear , this is wonderful, what's new in this field, I am so grateful to you for providing this powerful, as tutormentor says, (I really liked that) information.

    Those of you who might like to write the still incarcerated prisoners but who hesitate for whatever reason, if you would like YOUR thoughts included in the letter I'm writing, please just email it to me and I'll send it right along, as well, that way we can be a group writing but AS people who do care.

    When you think about it, Diane's story makes sense, you remember that some of the former inmates returned to York Correctional Institution for Christmas, it was the best home they had had. Some, you recall Dale Griffith, the teacher there, saying have no person to even send a card TO? When you combine that lack of support with no education, what are they, realistically, going to do when they are released? One act of violence which we know they feel the affects of (but in most cases that follows years of some kind of abuse) and a fresh new start, but who is going to help them in this start? Who is going to encourage?

    I will feel personally better when I have encouraged at least one person.

    I'm very excited about this discussion and proud of all of you for wanting to try in some way, it shows what kind of people YOU are!

    ginny

    Diane Church
    February 4, 2004 - 08:49 am
    Oh Nancy - I feel so silly! Yes, of course, it was your very own post #26 that included the links I referred to!

    Well, let's just say that they were so good they bear repeating and I would encourage anyone who skipped over your #26 to go back and read those links.

    Our own Sacramento Bee has been running some articles on much-needed prison reform here in California and I guess I wasn't sure which information came from where? But better too much than not enough. Perhaps the ball has really started rolling (on prison reform) and, as we all know, once it starts it ain't gonna stop!

    BaBi
    February 4, 2004 - 09:14 am
    Ginny, I'm perfectly willing to write or e-mail Andy Thibault for any suggestions he might have. Do you have a postal or e-mail address for him? All I found was "Columnist, Law Tribune Newspapers", which is a chain of newpapers; no address for columist Thibault. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    February 4, 2004 - 09:16 am
    Diane,

    The Sacramento Bee ran a lovely review of our book, CKITM, awhile back (written by a columnist who published the review in several other newspapers as well; I believe Susan was her first name -- her last name began with a G.).

    I try so hard to write and acknowledge reviewers who have supported us, unfortunately I'm so far behind, but I'm sure this one is in the "I'll get to it some day" pile. Even though I've been remiss in responding, please, please tell the folks at the Sacramento Bee I send my regards and I thank them for their support! I promise someday I will acknowlege more appropriately through snail mail!

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 4, 2004 - 10:49 am
    The thing that people forget about Shakespere is that in his day, he was considered a popular author.. Meaning the great masses of people went to see him for entertainment. When people start to act out his plays, they discover the great energy and joy involved in them..Prisoners are just like the rest of us.. Give them something interesting to learn and do and they will respond.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 5, 2004 - 06:58 am
    You're right Stephanie; the collective "energies" of these guys during the months of prep and production is said to be amazing.

    Also, reported is that many of the men begin forming emotional connections between the stories, the characters, and their own situations. More than a few of Shakespeare's characters, in the context of today's American society and culture could be "mirror cellmates" of the players.

    The prison-related workshop yesterday was great -- well-attended and enlightening to all. I'll provide details, hopefully over the weekend, but for the next two days I'll be helping out a lot, "hands on," as my good friend endures a rather risky spinal surgery in an attempt to mend her broken back, the result of a sledding accident from last Friday. It's an especially tough situation since she has 3 small children (one only 6 months old). Blessings and prayer energy would be gratefully accepted, I'm sure. Her name is Leigh.

    BaBi
    February 5, 2004 - 11:51 am
    I have managed to track down a mailing address (P.O.Box) for Andy Thibault, and will try to get a letter off to him this weekend. I'll ask him to post any suggestions he may have here on SeniorNet so we can discuss them...assuming he responds. He seems to be a busy man. ...Babi

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 5, 2004 - 01:10 pm
    Nancy B., I've sent up a prayer for your friend, Leigh. What a tragic accident. Sue

    Malryn (Mal)
    February 6, 2004 - 08:53 am
    Hi, everyone. I'm late coming in here because I was sick. A big hug for NANCY BIRKLA, who continues to help us understand what goes on behind prison walls. Thank you, Nancy!

    There has been a discussion about abused women and how hard it can be for them to get away from the abuser in the discussion of Studs Terkel's book, Hope Dies Last. I have posted three short excerpts from Couldn't Keep It to Myself in that discussion to show them what can happen sometimes when women can't leave often terrible situations. I posted a link to this discussion there also.

    Mal

    BaBi
    February 6, 2004 - 01:19 pm
    I got off a letter to Andy Thibault today. I have asked him, if he is able to respond, if he would please post his suggestions here so that we can all read and discuss them.

    I have been doing some research into the Texas Prison System, as my knowledge is limited. We have had serious problems with overcrowding in the past, resulting in judicial intervention and wholesale dumpting of prisoners back into society, sometimes with disastrous results. This was followed by building more prisons, and experiments with privately owned/licensed prisons.

    I find that Texas has a reputation for having more prisoners behind bars, and executing more criminals, than any other state. The approach here seems to be primarily punitive and is strongly endorsed by active Victims Rights groups. So far, the only rehab. programs I have been able to identify deal with substance abuse.

    The info. above was dated Jan., 2001; I will continue to look for more recent data.

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 6, 2004 - 01:25 pm
    Florida has serious overcrowding issues. Our problem is too many people moving to the state. Too many immigrants coming in illegally. Sooner or later this affects the prison population. Drugs and all of the permutations involved is what affects our prisons the most. If we could find another solution for addicts it would certainly ease the situation.

    Ginny
    February 6, 2004 - 02:19 pm
    Oh this is so exciting and I want to come back in and talk about everything each of you has brought here.

    Nancy I'm so sorry for your friend Leigh and I hope she will make a full recovery back to health very soon! she's lucky she has in you such a wonderful friend.

    Babi, fabulous news, thank you so much for writing Andy Thibault, I do hope he will come in and talk to us, we would be honored and will publicize it mightily, it would be a red letter day if he did! Theres's so much he could tell us.~

    Back in a minute, the Wally Wave just came on shore again and a couple of things need immediate attention, isn't this exciting, thank you Malryn for putting those links in the Hope Dies Last forum, I hope several of those good people will come by here and join us.

    Back in a moment, we're readying a permanent resource for anybody interested in the Wally Lamb book, his exclusive interview with us, Nancy's exclusive interview as well as Dale's and Nancy Whiteley's and much more, it's taking a lot of us a lot of time, hold onnnn!!

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    February 6, 2004 - 11:14 pm
    Hi Everyone,

    Whew, this has been quite a week and although I've been a little light in posting, I've been hard at work lining up some folks to join us in this discussion.

    Tomorrow I should have time to review my notes from the workshop I attended earlier this week concerning transitional difficulties for served out inmates. Among the panel members was a man I've known for several years, both through the college and also out in the Louisville community. Currently he is Program Coordinator for an organization called "Visions of Hope," which provides training and individual coaching for offenders prior to release from prison and then further provides help to them as they strive toward becoming productive members of society after being released.

    I had no idea prior to Wednesday that this man is a formerly incarcerated individual himself, which just goes to show you that anything is possible when it comes to believing in and nurturing human potential!

    Anyhow, the man's name is Robert Glenn Jr., and after Wednesday's presentation ended, I rushed a quick explaination of this discussion site to him. I asked if he might be available for some questions and answers, and he said he would be.

    I'll tell more of him later, when I relay the highlights of Wednesdays presentation, and he's given me permission to quote him here. I'll e-mail him tomorrow w/a link to this site and hopefully we'll be hearing from him soon. I also spoke w/several professors who teach college classes at our local prisons that may be joining our discussion in some form too.

    Concerning the questions about AG Blumenthal and the real deal about his meeting w/the women from CKITM, well, although I know the story, what I've heard is second hand. So I've written to several of the released women and forwarded your comments/questions to them. Hopefully we'll be hearing from one of them (or maybe even a couple of them) soon.

    Last week I also wrote to some of the still-incarcerated women from CKITM (via snail mail of course) and asked if they have any comments they'd like presented here. If so, they can write back to me, I'll transcribe and then post by proxy. We've done it this way before in another discussion, and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear from at least 2 of them in this one.

    A little earlier this evening I spent some time with a long-term friend who is currently Louisville's Family Drug Court Manager. This is a program that offers (sometimes) treatment/counseling/educational options for individuals as an alternative to incarceration.

    Her name is Becki Evans, and she has a really BIG job these days. She's currently working on a huge grant proposal toward funding her program, and next week several graduate student interns will begin working with her. Becki, seemed really excited about joining us in this discussion, so I will e-mail a link to her along with info concerning logging on, etc., ASAP.

    Like me, Robert and Becki believe that unaddressed addictions are the primary reason our prisons are bursting at the seams, so I think they can both provide a lot of interesting and thought-provoking material for us to ponder.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 6, 2004 - 11:29 pm
    And here's another link, for those interested, in what should probably be considered as a non-incarceration option for some drug-related offenders. If you click onto the sub-headings, this webpage gives a pretty accurate depiction of what The Healing Place is all about.

    This particular organization is one I personally support, both financially and through hands-on volunteer efforts. Both Becki and Robert (mentioned in my above post) are very familiar with this organization too. I am personally integrated w/residents of the Healing Place a couple of times a week and have witnessed the miraculous success of this particular program with my own eyes. I often find myself wondering how things might be different in this country if every prison had a "Healing Place" within.

    http://www.thehealingplace.org/

    BaBi
    February 7, 2004 - 08:33 am
    Nancy, your enthusiasm, energy and involvement suggest to me that you are well on your way to the same sort of contributions to society as Robert Glenn and Becki Evans are making. I think that the day will come when those of us here will be saying, "Nancy Birkla? I know her!" ...Babi

    Ginny
    February 7, 2004 - 09:19 am
    I totally agree, Babi, totally. Nancy is incredible and amazing, I have never met anybody like her, she's an inspiration to all of us and I'm totally overwhelmed every time she appears, we're very lucky here.

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    February 7, 2004 - 09:25 am
    I keep recieving letters and e-mails chock full of thank-yous and accolades, and they really blow my mind, because from where I sit, I'm the one feeling overwhelmed with gratitude over finally (finally, finally, finally) being afforded the priviledge of knowing how it feels to be listened to.

    Over the years I've experienced much heartbreak and frustration over wanting so desperately to be able to participate in really helping to change my world, a world that needs so badly to change. But for all practical purposes, much of the time (ongoing, not just in the past) I'm considered another "one of them," a 4-time-convicted-felon, and trust me, not many individuals who make the laws are willing to listen to a thing I have to say, even though I am exactly what they hope the result of their screwed up system will end up being. My own situation is, without a doubt, the result of Devine intervention, not criminal justice.

    We (by "we," I mean so many truly responsible individuals who have proven, longterm, to be anchored in physical, emotional, and spiritual wellness) often can't vote; we can't teach; we can't participate in mentoring programs like Big Sisters/Big Brothers; we can't get good jobs (although often we dazzle in first interviews and then during callbacks, as soon as the past felony conviction is disclosed, the result of rigorous honesty, the interviews terminate -- doesn't matter how exemplary past work history is, or how many references you have backing you); we can't become foster parents; sometimes we can't even accompany our own children on school field trips; the list goes on and on . . . and the fact that many commit crimes with no victim other than self does not matter at all.

    So for me, finally being afforded a voice (thanks to Wally Lamb, my hero for sure), I not only feel privileged, but I also feel obligated to work as hard as I can toward helping to facilitate change. Although I certainly never thought about all this some years back, when I finally began hoping and dreaming about my future, without a doubt I've arrived in God's purpose for my life, and everything that's happened up to this point now makes sense and feels exactly right.

    So, bless you all for embracing me and accepting me as I continue this journey into my newly purpose-filled life.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 7, 2004 - 10:39 am
    Emerging From the Darkness, 02/04/2004

    Notes from Jefferson Community College (JCC) Professional Development (PD) Workshop, re: transitional issues concerning “served out” released inmates

    Background data:

    • “Served out” means an inmate has served his/her entire sentence incarcerated, in other words the release is unsupervised, (no parole or probation).

    • The panel consisted of 4 men, previously incarcerated for varying lengths of time for a variety of crimes. One of the “rules” was no questions were to be asked about specific past crimes; the discussion was to be based on life after the moment a man’s debt to society was paid off in full (because they had served out their entire sentences while incarcerated), although a couple of the panel members volunteered the information in response to questions asked of them.

    • All panel members are past or present JCC students.

    • Also present were a warden from one of our state’s prisons, the Prison Education Coordinator from JCC, many of the college’s professors who teach classes at various prison facilities, as well as other interested faculty and staff members of the college.

    First, the presenter of the workshop, Gaye Holman, gave a brief overview of what a release situation might typically “look like.” The warden in attendance seemed to agree with everything Ms. Holman presented as facts, which include:

    A served out inmate will usually walk out of the prison in a prison issued uniform, the same that he's worn during his incarceration.

    He can be picked up by a family member or a friend, but often will have no family or friends available to support him, in which case he will be given a ride to a bus station where a ticket will be purchased to a location of his choice (anywhere up to a KY state line). If he leaves with no money and is faced with a long bus ride, usually two sandwiches will be provided to take along for sustenance during the ride home.

    If he has nowhere else to go, he will be given a ride to a local homeless shelter.

    Even if he has no money in his prison account, he will not be given one single penny upon his release (please remember, a prison official in attendance agreed with this being an accurate statement).

    If the released inmate is taking regular medication, even those of a psychotropic nature, he will be given only a one week supply of meds along w/directions for self-administration and a phone number to a local mental health agency. No assistance is given concerning helping to pre-arrange an appointment, just a phone number. Often the individual will not even have the 50 cents it would take to make the phone call. The point was made by the prison official (at this point) that individuals with mental illness frequently show up back at the prison, wanting to be allowed in again.

    Served out prisoners are usually not eligible for supervised programs, like prison halfway houses that paroled prisoners are placed into during transitional months post-release. Even those desperately wanting to go directly from prison into drug treatment programs need to have recommendations from other outside agencies first, and often they end up selling and using drugs during the segue of time between leaving prison and becoming able to be placed into treatment.

    Even if an education is attained, during the years of incarceration, getting a job of any kind, without the support of structured placement programs is all but impossible, so again when faced with being homeless and jobless many resort to what they are familiar with to survive (which usually involves committing crimes),

    67% of served out inmates in the state of KY recede shortly after being released.

    More later . . .

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 8, 2004 - 07:26 am
    Oh Nancy. I cannot imagine being released from prison under those conditions. I am interested in the program that was mentioned in our morning paper. I live in Florida and the featured article this Sunday was on a religion based prison environment. This is something new that our Governor ( not a favorite of mine) has concocted. Different religious groups are allowed into this one prison. The prisoners are divided up into what congregation they profess. The whole thing makes no sense to me, but it seems to be a different approach to serving time. There are a lot of difficulties that even I can spot. It is easy to be religious in prison.. Hate to be cynical, but I have a son involved heavily in corrections and the law. As he says,, most people he arrests immediately decide to call on their lawyers to find them a pastor or religious program to help them. Since he deals with Child pornographers, etc. he finds this especially distasteful. I would guess that I am uncomfortable about the relationship between lawbreakers and religon..

    kiwi lady
    February 8, 2004 - 10:29 am
    I am lurking here as I really can't contribute much being a furriner and its your corrections system which needs the overhaul.

    One interesting thing to comment on I have a dear friend who was in trouble at the age of 21 for cashing cheques for her then boyfriend who was a confidence trickster. I asked her yesterday why when she was such an intelligent person did she not suspect something. She told me she was entirely under the spell of this man and believed everything he said. When she took the fall for him I asked if then she did not realise he was guilty and had used her. To this day she cannot understand why her family refused to help her because she would not leave this man. I told her straight yesterday that if I had been the parent in this situation I am afraid I would not be an enabler for my child by helping in this situation either. Her parents tried everything to get her to ditch this man but she would not. She still has resentment toward her family about the stand they took all these years later. It seems to me that many women are incarcerated because of a bad relationship. What is it with some women? How do we help women like this before they land in prison. To me it is just as important to educate women about healthy relationships as it is to reform our prisons. Do we start in high school with education about what is a healthy relationship?

    Nancy Birkla
    February 8, 2004 - 12:02 pm
    Stephanie and Carol,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to read what is being presented. I still have about half of what I want to post from last Wednesday's workshop to write up yet; hopefully I'll be able to get to it this afternoon.

    Questions, questions, questions is what I (we) need here. I've created my own little "panel" of experts, who will soon be entering this discussion. I will begin "divying" out your questions immediately, as the range of expertise is broad, including a Christian pastor with a career background in probation and parole (Stephanie, I'll see what he has to say about your questions concerning religion).

    And Carol, please, please don't feel like you cannot participate in this discussion because you live in another country. One of the focuses of my friend Becki's grant propsal is that most foreign countries have more success than we in the United States have re: Criminal Justice. I'm sure she (as well as we) would love to read links and hear how things work (or even don't work) in your country, which I believe is New Zealand, isn't it?

    I need to run for now, but Carol, I will also get back concerning some of your questions re: abusive relationships. Unfortunately, that would be one of my own areas of expertise!

    Later!

    Ginny
    February 8, 2004 - 01:52 pm
    How heartening, how wonderful to look in here and see these posts and the quality of these posts and the information presented, Nancy we owe you a mountain of debt, what you are saying is SO important and we want to get it up on html pages for reference, and I really think if we don't watch out, we are going to, in this little discussion, end up doing something really important here, it's taking on dimensions I had not the wisdom to forsee. I'm in awe and wonder at this entire initiative. It's very meaningful to me. Yesterday two people wrote me they had emailed Michael Lawlor after reading your posts, Nancy, I am very proud of this whole effort, it's an honor to participate.

    You will doubtless note today, however, a sadness and lack of enthusiasm on our boards as one of our own, our dear friend, Coordinator, and Discussion Leader of the Books, Lorrie Gorg, who has been gravely ill, has taken a turn for the worse and is not expected to make it past tomorrow. This news came this morning, her friends are keeping a 24 hour vigil at her bedside, and there's nothing more we can do now but send prayers. A very strong person, who overcame a great deal in her life, a shining example, and one of us. She considered SeniorNet her family. She will be greatly missed.

    Back tomorrow.

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    February 8, 2004 - 03:41 pm
    Golly, I've been thinking about post #49, grappling to find a way to explain something that I still don't really understand myself.

    I agree that our prisons are full of women who have been abused, manipulated, and in many instances addicted -- and sadly most of the time all of these dynamics go hand-in-hand. I know from my own experience that "putting down" that man was far more difficult than putting down the drugs. So, with seven full years into recovery from drugs, I finally began grasping that addiction really is not about using drugs, but rather it is an underlying compulsion to keep using (doing) the same things over and over again no matter how much pain it (whatever "it" may be) causes.

    Why would a woman stay in an abusive relationship until it kills her? Hell if I know. I can't really tell you why I stayed so long any better today, than I could have back then. I do remember feeling a tiny sense of security that the risk of his anger actually causing him to kill me might be greater if I left than if I stayed. This I carefully included when I began calculating the risks of staying vs. the risks of leaving.

    Truth be told, I'd be lying if I were to say that I'm fully over that particular fear. Even though I've moved on, and my life is really pretty terrific, you see, he's no doubt still angry and unstable. To my knowledge he's not sought any kind of treatment for HIS issues, so I can only assume he's probably sicker today than he was "yesterday" when he threatened that if I ever left him, he would hunt me down and even the score. He further threatened that it might be much later down the line, sometime when I'd least expect it.

    I believe the best you can do is try to find something positive to help the abused partner focus on; in other words, help in raising esteem, rather than criticizing actions.

    Also, thank God my own parents made the decision not to support my crazy choices in life any more. I got well rather quickly when the full impact (consequences) of my decisions and actions fell directly on me, rather than being buffered first by them (and I too stayed mad at them for a really long time). This happened when I got clean from the drugs and again when I left my abusinve marriage (and probably a few other times too).

    I don't know if the following will help create any kind of understanding, but I wrote it well after I left the relationship. Only after I became more well myself, was I able to look back and realize how sick my past situation really was.

    Locking My Door

    Tonight, as I lock my door, I ask myself why?

    Why have I always locked myself in?

    And who is it I’ve tried locking out?

    . . . an intruder, a thief, maybe a rapist?

    Who have I needed to keep on the other side of the door?

    I’m not sure, since no perpetrator has ever tried breaking in.

    The dangerous one has never lurked outside;

    but instead he once lived inside with me.

    He is the only one who ever hit me, yelled at me, confined me,

    swore at me, pushed me, punched me, bruised me, broke my stuff,

    kicked my dogs, laughed at me when I cried, called me crazy,

    claimed I was “too needy,” told me I was stupid,

    said I was fat and lazy, caused me to feel ugly,

    slept with other women, convinced me it was my fault,

    manipulated my mind, robbed me of my youth,

    and raped my heart of all my love,

    until wishing for death eventually smothered my desire to live.

    Yet every night, even back then, I locked my door.

    Tonight I ask myself why?

    And who in the world did I ever believe needed to be locked out?

    BaBi
    February 8, 2004 - 04:18 pm
    Nancy, that is powerful. If you know of any organizations furnishing materials for groups dealing with abusive relationships, this is something that should be printed and shared. For that matter, someone at the college can probably suggest an outlet for this. It needs a wider audience, IMO. ...Babi

    Malryn (Mal)
    February 9, 2004 - 05:07 am
    I have posted a link to this discussion in the Writers Exchange WREX discussion with an invitation to the senior writers there to join us here.

    Mal

    BaBi
    February 9, 2004 - 08:34 am
    What a terrific idea, Malryn. Give more of these new writers an outlet to be heard. /\ /\ (hands applauding) ...Babi

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 9, 2004 - 04:01 pm
    Nancy. How powerful and moving. I had never thought in those terms. My best friend in high school was in an abusive relationship. She ended up pregnant and back in the mid 50's your choices were limited. The first time, she chose abortion, the second.. the baby and a marriage of course swiftly. The abuse grew and grew and in her 8th month, he pushed her down a flight of stairs. He walked away and left her to be found by others and she still wanted him. She left with her parents and lived in another town entirely and still wanted him. He did not want her or the baby.. ever. He married four times, same pattern and died young.. But I never understood why and how she still wanted him.

    Hairy
    February 9, 2004 - 05:45 pm
    People can be an addiction just as strong as drugs or alcohol. It's hard to break the pull, the obsession.

    Kiwi, we welcome your responses, ideas, suggestions here or anywhere. You spoke of your prisons some time ago and it sounds like your country has a good system and much, much less crime. Whatever you are doing right needs to be communicated to US. Obviously we need help and ideas from other systems.

    We are a rather crowded country in many places; maybe that contributes to some violent crimes. These snipers are a sign of something wrong with our society, I think. Why did they do these things, what has happened to their minds? What are we doing as a country that is causing so many to go astray? Too crowded? Too many lost morals? Too much violence on TV/Movies, etc? I don't know. I just don't know. Poverty? The lack of manners that we used to have - a lack of caring that goes with that? Am I getting warm?

    Linda

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 9, 2004 - 06:03 pm
    Hairy, crowding may contribute to violent crime, but other reasons also do. For example, just 3 weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon I went to church, out to lunch with a friend, and then drove to a closed gas station/truck stop on a well traveled road to call my children as I do every Sunday because I can't get a decent cell phone signal at my farm. After talking for 16 minutes to my youngest son, I put the phone down to look for the telephone number of my oldest. Suddenly the door was snatched open (only driver's side not locked)and what I thought was a gun was placed on my head. The young man said "give me your money" and then repeated it. I quickly dragged bills out of my purse and gave them to him. Fortunately for me, a nearby church was just getting out. The parishioners thought they knew who the boy was and the sherriff's deputies found him a couple of hours later. He was 14 years old. This is a small rural county with very small population, although some families are large. I don't know how large his family is, but have since learned that he was expelled from school in September. His mother admitted she had no control over him. I feel bad for her and him, too. He will be in a juvenile facility until they feel he is stable enough to be released on the judge's orders. However, since Alabama is in a financial crisis, I doubt seriously that he will get the counseling and tutoring he needs. Many correctional department employees have been laid off and our prisons are under court order to make them more humane and less crowded.

    I think the young man was on drugs. He told the police that the weapon was a whiskey bottle in his pocket. He also told them he spent my money on beer. He was high when they caught him. Substance abuse is definitely a factor in many incarcerations. Sue

    kiwi lady
    February 10, 2004 - 12:52 am
    Our system here is not perfect but I think it is a lot better than many countries. If you are prepared to enter into the programs put in place in our prisons you can make a new start. There is good support when you get out too. Unfortunately we are suffering the drug epidemic like you are especially methamphetamines. Murder often results from the heavy use of this drug. Every mothers nightmare is for her kid to end up on P which is what this drug is called here. As fast as they bust up labs they are opening new ones. In rental homes in motel units. The units are not fit for human habitation after P has been manufactured there - they are toxic.

    BaBi
    February 10, 2004 - 12:21 pm
    I received e-mail responses from Andy Thibault, consisting primarily of copies of his articles. We already have three of them listed in the heading, as I told him by return e-mail. Two we do not have are "Patient Rights - Not!" and "J'Accuse! Coverup at Correction", both in the Connecticutt Law Tribune. The one on Patient Rights was in reference to the denial of Patient Rights to mental patients in Connecticut.

    Both articles are similar in vein to the ones we have been reading, and equally good. They do not specifically address the issue of prison education and rehab, however. I am hoping he will have time to visit here and see what it is we are attempting to do.

    For those who would be interested, Thibault's website is "andythibault.com" ,,,Babi

    BaBi
    February 10, 2004 - 12:42 pm
    I found this e-mail waiting when I went back out, and returned to post if. For bringing up this prison education issue in our individual states/locales, this is probably the best place to start.

    hi Babi, 

    will think about the issues you raise. meanwhile, may i suggest letters to the editor and op-ed pieces. not an original idea, but sometimes effective.

    best, andy

    Nancy Birkla
    February 10, 2004 - 05:04 pm
    I just wanted to jump in here for a minute to apologize for dragging my feet a bit in getting back with a few folks who've promised some input here.

    After work yesterday, I went to the hospital to visit my friend and ended up staying with her until very late (got home around midnight); now I've just now gotten home from work today.

    I'll send off e-mails w/links to this site, along with some of your questions a little later tonight. I'll also be home for a few hours tomorrow morning too.

    In the meantime thanks for the new posts. Meth is a huge problem in Indiana, where I live. The further out into the country you go, the more meth seems to be the latest drug of choice. For those who may not know what Meth is, it's a lovely little concoction of poisons (literally). Hopefully I'll find a link to follow later tonight w/ more about this drug.

    In the meantime, I'd like to state clearly that I consider educating individuals concerning various drugs and the dynamics of the disease of addiction to be primary in the prison education arena, possibly even more important than teaching lessons that can be applied toward landing good jobs. A very high percentage of incarcerated individuals have histories that include drug use/abuse (85%-90%). Amazingly few of these individuals have any idea exactly what the drugs they take consist of or what specifically the drugs do to their bodies. I think it's especially important to teach the truth about substances many do not consider to be real drugs, like alcohol and marijuana, too.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 10, 2004 - 05:26 pm
    It took me all of 11 seconds to find this "recipe" for cooking up a batch of Crystal Meth that was posted on a website (how scary is that?)!!!

    I swear to God, it's that easy. Is it any wonder we have so many screwed up future felons out there? From here until the end of this post is a direct quote from one of hundreds of websites that are providing "information," sadly even to our kids . . .

    Crystal Meth Ingredients

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: TO ALL CONCERNED Certain text files and messages contained on this site deal with activities and devices which would be in violation of various Federal, State, and local laws if actually carried out or constructed. We are not responsible for, nor do we assume any liability for, damages resulting from the use of any information on this site. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    There are only 3 main ingredients to making crystal meth. This are how to get them...

    1. Psuedoephedrine (E)

    This is the active ingredient in Sudafed. I would recomend getting the generic brand. They are about $8.00 for 96 pills. You can get these at any Pharmacy. Of course they are over the counter. In the methhead synthesis he goes about extracting it in a different way. The easiest way is to crush the pills and let them soak in denatured alcohol for 4 to 8 hours. You can get denatured alcohol at any hardware store. It is by the paint thinner and mineral spirits. Then filter and take the liquid and slowly boil it on the stove until it gets down to the bottom. You will want to finish the drying with a hair dryer so you dont burn the psuedo. Now take the powder and mix it with distilled water. Let it settle and set it in the freezer for 1/2 an hour. Now take the semi-frozen liquid and filter again. Take the psueo water and slowly boil it again. Take out the hair dryer and finish drying it. Now its powdered....and you have pure psuedo.

    2.Iodine crystals (I2)

    Iodine is watched by the goverment and they will take your ID and put you on the list if you buy it from a chemical supplier. So the safest way to get it is to go to a pharmacy and ask for Iodine Tincture. If they ask what it is for say that it is for your horse. It is used on horses for a problem with there hooves. The probaly wont ask though. It is sold in 1oz. bottles and you can usually get about a gram of pure iodine crystals from one bottle. The problem with this is that you will need to go to many pharmacies and just buy a few bottles at each one. That way they dont get suspicious. I made up a synthesis on converting iodine tincture. It is on the main page. {{New Info!!-- You can purchase iodine tincture in gallon and 1/2 gallon sizes at any Quality Farm & Fleet. But don't buy to many of them. I would recomend only buying a gallon at a time. It is about $12.00 for a gallon. Just take it up to a cashier that is young and stupid. They shouldn't ask any questions. This way is much easier than going around to a hundred different pharmacies and buying it in 1oz. bottles. A lot cheaper too!!}}

    3.Red Phosphorus (RP)

    RP is made from the strike pad on a match book. NOT the matches themselves but the pad it is striked on. If there is a Spartan store around your area go to it and buy some boxes of match books. I recomend the Spartan brand cause it comes off easy and is cheap. The match books should have a light brown or reddish striler on them. Not the stripped or dotted kind. The smooth light brown striker is what you want. There is also a sythesis that i wrote up on how to get the RP off the match books on the main page.

    Ok, next i will list some of the other shit you will need and where to get it....

    1.Colemans Fuel----sporting goods store, K-mart or Walmart

    2.Muriatic Acid (HCl)---any hardware store. also near the paint thinners.

    3.Acetone---any hardware store

    4.Methanol---dont recomend it. use denatured alcohol instead. also near the paint thinners.

    5.Tubing & PVC connectors---any hardware store

    6.Flask---hobby store, chem supplier

    7.Red Devil Lye---In a lot of K-mart or Walmart type stores. Or maybe even in your local grocerie store. It is by the drain cleaners in a little white bottles with a red top. It is a very strong drain cleaner. Just look in a bunch of different stores and you will find it.

    8.PH strips---hobby store or you can make your own with red cabbage.

    9.Vision Ware Bowl---K-Mart or someplace like that. It has to withstand high temps. and be able to go from the stove right into ice water. Look in kitchen stores also. My buddy had a very hard time finding one of these cause he lives in a little town. Just go somewhere that has a lot of pots and pans and stuff.



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    kiwi lady
    February 10, 2004 - 09:48 pm
    Drug rehab programs - good ones should be readily available in prisons along with the clinical help these prisoners need.

    BaBi
    February 11, 2004 - 09:17 am
    Nancy, it made me uneasy to see that stuff printed even here. I think what really made me angry was that hypocritical disclaimer of responsibility for people actually using the information. Why are they printing it, then? It's hardly leisure reading, is it? There surely ought to be some law against making this sort of info. so available. ...Babi

    BaBi
    February 11, 2004 - 09:21 am
    As I said in an earlier post, drug rehab programs are available in Texas prisons, but that is about all that's available.

    You want to hear a good example of bureaucratic boneheadedness? Some years ago, (since stopped), beautician training was offered in women's prisons in Texas, to teach inmates a trade. Unfortunately, in Texas persons with a prison record could not receive a beautician's license. Catch-22. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    February 11, 2004 - 09:41 am
    I thought hard before posting #65, because I too felt uneasy about it (if you notice, I did not include the actual "recipe;" I deleated that part out -- to include it would have clearly crossed the line into "inappropriate"). I will understand if anyone at S/N believes what I still crossed over that line and wants to delete the post altogether. However, the post (I believe) proves my point better than any conglomeration of words I could ever come up with on my own, in trying to create an understanding, don't you think? This is serious stuff, and from where I sit, discomfort and uneasiness are necessary elements in promoting change (providing one is presenting truthful data and examples).

    Not only does society remain ignorant about specific dynamics concerning the poisons folks are loading themselves up with (in epidemic proprtions), but many, many drug users have no idea what they are ingesting either, and how are they to learn if we refuse to provide the resources for substance abuse education/treatment in our prisons (or outside of prison for that matter).

    In my case, I sought treatment on my own several times prior to finally getting "clean" but was turned down at hospitals, due to not having health insurance, and I was also considered ineligible for various programs provided through local social services, since technically we (the ex and I) had an income. It wasn't until after I was arrested and because my parents agreed to pay over $16,000.00 in cash that I was finally "afforded" treatment. It was ultimately the ability of somebody to pay a lot of money that helped me. Had they not paid, there's no doubt in my mind I would have ended up either dead or living out my life in priosn.

    Sure, we say we are already doing all we can (or that it is not the taxpayers' responsibility to pay for such programs), but then we remain willing to foot the phenominal bill that pays for the whole mess that occurs as the result of not providing necessary programs in the first place.

    At the prison where I was incarcerated, they do currently have a substance abuse treatment program, but my understanding is that it's a 6 month "residential" (segregated from general prison population) program with only 25 slots available at a time. With the population of the prison nearing the 800 mark, basic arithmatic should afford a pretty persuasive argument that not nearly enough is being done.

    BaBi
    February 11, 2004 - 10:13 am
    "From where I sit, discomfort and uneasiness are necessary elements in promoting change.."

    I totally agree, Nancy. Change means getting out of one's comfortable rut, and that always means accepting some discomfort and uneasiness.

    One of the toughest problems confronting us now, I believe, is how to find an acceptable compromise between freedom of speech and liberty to spread, through such sources as the internet, information that is so dangerous. We accept that no one is free to broadcast information endangering the safety of the United States. That is why the government can deny access to a great deal of information.

    Couldn't there also be standards as to information that endangers the safety of individual citizens? The individual citizen also has a right to make his/her own choices, yet they are often unwilling to accept the responsibility for those choices. Do something stupid, then file a lawsuit against someone else. The bottom line may be that there is no way, ultimately, to protect people from themselves.

    So, who feels confident and competent enough to suggest these 'standards'? Not I, said the little white-haired hen. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    February 11, 2004 - 12:11 pm
    BaBi,

    We seem to be in a little 2-way dialogue today. I just want to clarify my reasoning behind posting the info regarding Crystal Meth. I wasn't trying to bring into this forum any freedom of speech issues.

    Like it or not, right or wrong, folks can post (pretty much) whatever they want on the NET. What motivated me to pull up that particular information was that I wanted to show (by example) that when I referred to that particular drug being a man-made concotion of various poisons, when I used the word "poisons," I was not using it metaphorically -- I was using it literally.

    Meth isn't really anything new. Although less popular back then, it was already around in the days when drug use was a daily activity for me. I had absolutely no idea how the stuff was made or what ingredients it was comprised of, and even now, I shutter to think of the potential damage it caused me. It wasn't really until I went through drug/alcohol treatment that I learned anything at all about what the drugs were made of or what extent they could a person using them.

    Ginny
    February 11, 2004 - 01:09 pm
    I tell you what, nobody can say this is not an informative and educational discussion, I love it!

    Nancy, your schedule sounds like mine, hahaahah we appreciate your taking the time and making time to come in here, very much! I'm about to get caught up and then am leaving tomorrow for St. Paul, one of our discussion leaders in the Books, is gravely ill, Lorrie Gorg and so I'll be gone till Sunday to give her our cheer and well wishes, Pat Westerdale and I are both going, but they tell us the hotel rooms are wired for internet use, some strange sounding thing so Pat will have it figured out and you'll never know I'm gone.

    But I also, like Babi, felt a little strange looking at that list of "meth" ingredients, and I'm glad you mentioned the recipe is not there, Nancy, but merely the poisons that go into it. Boy you got THAT right! Poison is the operative word, my eyes got bigger and bigger as the list winded on its sickening way.

    I have to say, just on first impressions and reading it you have to wonder why on earth anybody would ever put that in their own body, I mean you really do, but I bet there are people who wonder why I eat so many sweets, too, and why I take Benedryl at night, and wonder why I can't see that's not good for me.

    I realize that's a lame comparison but even some over the counter drugs are addictive, like some nose sprays and actually cause the symptoms they treat, Afrin is one, big time. And I'm not sure that the jury is in on sweets, the pancreas, and diabetes, either.

    I am glad to know what METH is, because on my birthday last week I had a run in with a NURSE at a Meth Rehab Clinic? And all I can say is, I pity the poor Meth persons who have to encounter that battleax.

    I was late to go to Greenville, out of town to meet my friend who was taking me to lunch, but my cello which I have been taking for 2 years had a problem, and so the only time they could "see" that patient was at 10 am , so pushed my friend back to 11, drove into the parking lot shared by several offices, nothing marked private except the handicapped, pulled up in front of one of the other doors, women standing around cheerfully admiring photos when one of the women, in a nurse's smock, smoking cigarettes like a chimney took great offense to my parking there, making a great show of looking up and down, just really carrying ON, just really had an attitude, it was almost funny to watch, and when I got OUT and had the audacity to remove the cello she about burst. So I said, in a nasty tone, is it all right for me to park here? Sarcastically because no matter what she said I was not moving. And she said this is for our patients. (It wasn't MARKED that way.) And I said (the lot was full) there is no other place to park, would you want me to park in the handicapped (where I would get a ticket) and she, very belligerently, said well we need this for our patients how long will you be and I said oh 5 minutes, maybe? And she said well if that's ALL but we need this for our patients, and so I proceeded into the cello store and took of the head of the poor guy and he said we've never had a problem with them they are gone at 11 am and they run them in every 15 minutes, and I said what KIND of a doctor's office is it with the nurses smoking like chimneys (it was awful) and he said oh it's a Methadone clinic, and all I can say is I pity the poor methadone user who encounters that battleax, and then while I was getting back IN the car, here came another one flying out in a nurses uniform and lighting up like the world was going to pass if she did not get a cig. And I thought to myself if you say one word, that's it.

    The entire experience, believe it or not, reminded me of Barbara Lane, if you are around people enough who treat you like dirt then you either get extremely aggressive (like I did, that old NJ just came FLYING out, and I'm not proud of it), OR you tend to think you are not worth much and therefore everybody, even total strangers, should not have any regard for you at all.

    I can't imagine a nicotine addict rehabilitating a methadone addict, cure thyself I would want to shout before you cure me.

    I realize what I just said is NOT PC and is not humble or anything else, but by GUM don't treat me like a piece of XXX just because YOU have a nicotine problem. Snort.

    hahahaha NOW back to our regularly scheduled program.

    I think this discussion, even tho humble and even tho small, has a tremendous potential and I'm very excited about it, and proud of all of you who are in it, I am sorry I have been hors de combat, but that's about to change.

    Babi, wonderful work getting a response from Andy Thibault, I'd like to interview HIM I think it would be interesting, I'm not sure a journalist is….you don't see THEM interviewed much, do you, I think he would have a lot to tell us, I'll go to his website, many thanks!~

    We've had two more people write Representative Lawlor, and I hope that the legislation passes, can anybody find out WHEN the vote is scheduled?

    {{{{{SUE!!!}}} What a HORRENDOUS experience, how does that make you feel today? Are you jittery or? I have not had that happen to me but I don't think I would enjoy it!! {{{HUGS!!}}}

    Stephanie, child predators, the scum of the scum, I understand where you are coming from. That's one of the problems, maybe, with the public and the prisons? You say "prison" or "prisoners," and people stiffen up and look wide eyed but I'm so proud of all of you here who now know differently because thanks to Nancy's super self and Wally Lamb's book we know there are people underneath the label, but everybody is being hoist on the petards of a few in the minds of the public.

    That's another good reason for this discussion, to help change perspectives for the positive!

    Hairy and Babi and Carolyn, wonderful points, so glad to see you here,

    Nancy that post 46 blew me away! Incredible, that should be framed along with your own poem about Locking the Door, and the news that your ex has not sought treatment and has made threats is really REALLY not good, hopefully you are a long way away from that……person.

    It's just the way people... you want to say WHY WHY WHY? I remembered in your story about the way he acted, broke my heart, thank God you had enough sense to finally get out. THAT took a lot of strength.

    The Emerging From the Darkness - Professional Development (PD) Workshop report is fascinating, thank you so much, I would like to go over some of the points in more detail starting Monday and put it on HTML pages, I agree with Stephanie that it seems that if you have no money and nobody to pick you up a ride to the homeless shelter is not exactly a ticket to the good life,….is there NO program anywhere that addresses this? I mean, let's get real here, how many of US, you and me, could be thrown out on the street with no money nobody who cared (oh you say well that would never happen to ME!?! Couldn't happen to ME! Well you never know, you really never know!! You see everything as you age)…and where would you go and what would you do.

    Oh you say I'd teach, that was my profession. Well what school will hire you unless you lie about your background? WE need, maybe? Not to put roadblocks in the way of the rehabilitated, so that we as a society essentially force them to return to the life they led as it looks better than the "rehabilitated one," or so I think today, what do you all think, but again, I'm still angry over that rude abusive woman.

    Can you IMAGINE just for a moment what it must be like to have to listen to that all the time from everybody? That attitude of contempt? That scorn? My son, also in law enforcement, said oh she probably has had to deal with plenty of …I've forgotten how he put it, XXXX and their attacks and I said good. (Isn't that AWFUL? I should have compassion for her).

    Now let me go read Barbara Lane's story again while I'm good and mad.

    ginny

    JoanK
    February 11, 2004 - 03:59 pm
    WOW NANCY. I am really glad you posted that stuff on meth. How sickening. I can see the poor kid who wrote it (it sure sounded like a kid) thinking he's so smart to have figured all this out and wanting the whole world to share, while he is killing himself and others. Think of what that inventiveness could have done applied to world hunger. It could have been the kid down the street.

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 11, 2004 - 04:05 pm
    As far as returning to teaching following imprisonment--say in another state or country, most states now are having background checks on current and prospective teachers through fingerprints and I'm assuming the FBI or some such data base. Occasionally our paper has an article about someone who slipped through the cracks and later molested a student or that the new background check found prior prison time--maybe for substance abuse.

    One of my sons who had an alcohol problem in his early 20s was arrested a number of times for DUIs, finally asked us to help him into rehab and has been sober for almost 20 years, still has that on his record and can not get any state job. He is an entrepreneur, contractor, plumber, buys and operates rental properties. Because his knees are giving him problems, he decided to take real estate courses as he deals with that with his rental buying and selling. Well, he had to make a special application to the State Realty commission, undergo a humiliating interview with some members very contemptuous and rude, but they finally sent him a letter OKaying the real estate courses. He is not sure if he will be able to get a license at the end of it. So youthful indescretions can and do follow one for many years, even when one has been sober and successful in life in later years. Sue

    Nancy Birkla
    February 12, 2004 - 11:12 pm
    Coincidentaly, People Magazine has run a story titled, "Dying for Crystal," in their January 31st issue (w/cover re: Oprah's 50th B-day bash). The article tells a story I hear over and over these days from addicts who make it into recovery.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 13, 2004 - 11:16 am
    Well, finally I've managed to take care of getting phone calls made and e-mails sent, inviting several individuals I've spoken with into this discussion.

    I sincerely apoligize for being so remiss in doing so (which is usually not my style). I've felt pretty overwhelmed over the past week or so, working at two jobs, while trying to help out my hospitalized friend, who now is enduring complications in addition to dealing with her injury. The US paperback release of our book was last week too, so I've been doing a little work in that area as well.

    I'd (ongoing) been talking w/individuals who either teach or facilitate various educational and rehabilitational programs, and now I've finally contacted all of them again, and provided links to this site, in an effort to encourage some input here.

    Yesterday I also received a nice long letter from Bonnie Foreshaw who assures me that her spirit is lightening and healing. She wants to thank all who have prayed for or otherwise supported her, and also she expressed gratitude over so many individuals caring enough to discuss prison education issues.

    I guess that's about it for now. Thanks for your patience.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 13, 2004 - 03:55 pm
    In post #74, I gave the wrong People Magazine issue/date. The correct issue is Feb. 16, 2004.

    Hairy
    February 13, 2004 - 05:22 pm
    I just bought the paperback today! I plan to share it with others at school and with some of the parents.

    Can someone write here what exactly has happened about having to pay money back when one is released. Why and what for and all that. I try and tell people about it, but I have the feeling I'm not telling the story well enough.

    Thank you all!

    Linda - who just wants to be accurate.

    Hairy
    February 16, 2004 - 05:43 pm
    Nancy e-mailed me a full description of exactly what has happened. if it's all right with her and everyone else, I will post it here. It clarifies some of the fuzzy areas for me. Maybe it will for others, too.

    Let me know if I can post it. It is quite long but will fit, I think.

    Linda

    Nancy Birkla
    February 16, 2004 - 09:38 pm
    Linda, I've sent you an e-mail concerning this. Please hold off until you get with me. There are a couple of comments I'd need to seek permission first before including in any public domain. Thank you so much! NAB

    Nancy Birkla
    February 17, 2004 - 09:16 am
    FYI, I've contacted Linda re: the e-mail she referred to in post #77, and although I've asked her to hold off on posting what I wrote (for the time being), I certainly do appreciate her interest and her wanting to share my response with the rest of you!

    My only concern is to carefully maintain the anonymity of other contributors, who I left nameless in the e-mail while including specific examples of hardships concerning the liens, both current and in the context of future potential. In a public forum, though, one or more of the women could possibly be identified through what I wrote. So all I want to do before Linda posts what I've told her, is be a little more vague concerning some identities. I promise to leave the entire content intact, as every word of what I wrote is the truth.

    Thanks for your support and also for your understanding and patience Linda (et. all). I hope to have enough time to take care of this later today.

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 17, 2004 - 06:44 pm
    This was the head line of a news article in today's Montgomery Advertiser. I searched the MA website for this article to share with you, but couldn't find it. The article was on the Tri-County news page.

    Auburn University Center for the Arts and Humanities, Aid to Inmate Mothers, and the Alabama Writers' Forum are sponsoring a writing program at Julia Tutwiler Prison for Women in Wetumpka. It appears to have many of the beneficial results of Wally's group.

    An interesting side bar in the article states: "Prison Writing Programs: Grady Hillman, a writer in residence in the Texas prison system, has researched the effect of arts programs on the recidivism rate among parolees in California from 198-87 and found the following: After paroled 6 months: Reduced by 88%, compared to 72 percent for those who hadn't participated

    After paroled one year:Reduced 74 percent, compared to 49 percent for those who hadn't participated."

    This is certainly good news for these writing programs, the inmates, and the general public. Now if we could just get all prisons operating these programs without punitive actions like the Connecticut program had of charging the parolees buckets of money after their writing was published. Sue

    Nancy Birkla
    February 17, 2004 - 07:49 pm
    I couldn't find the article either, but here are links to two related sites. The first tells about AIM and the second includes a writing sample and instructions for ordering a publication:

    http://www.ocm.auburn.edu/news_releases/nea.html

    http://www.inmatemoms.org/publication.html

    Thanks for this info Sue. I hadn't heard of this Auburn University/Prison Partnership before.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 17, 2004 - 08:19 pm
    Over the past couple of days I've received many responses concerning individuals interested in joining this discussion including the following:

    Bonnie Foreshaw and Barbara Lane, two of my fellow contributors to CKITM. Barbara tells me at least two other women from York are interested in participating too (via snail mail/proxy, of course).

    My friend Beck Evans, who oversees Louisville's "Drug Court" Program

    One of the participants from the college PD workshop (Emerging from the Darkness) that I wrote about last week. He (Robert) tells me he's not so great when it comes to Internet skills but asked that I call him to talk about this (which I will try to do tomorrow).

    Barbara Blackburn who is an English Professor at Jefferson Community College (in Louisville) who is currently teaching 3 College English classes in both womens' and mens' prisons.

    I've also heard back from several other writing instructors who teach at various prisons. Some are interested in seeing if S/N might be interested in publishing some student works.

    I'm told this discussion will be long-term, so over time I'd love to "interview" some individuals I know who are currently well-respected professionals but who in the distant past were inmates themselves.

    Even my sweet husband is preparing to put in his two cents!

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 17, 2004 - 09:42 pm
    Nancy, thanks for the links to the Alabama prison project co-sponsored by AU, AIM, and the Alabama Writers' Forum. I've bookmarked both places. I'm getting ready to move to Auburn and have lots of books they might be able to use. I'll call for more information.

    Thanks also for the work you've done in getting people to come into this discussion. I can't do much with my impending move--but I do care about these writing programs and prisoners who are trying so hard to make some meaning for their lives through writing. Sue

    BaBi
    February 18, 2004 - 11:40 am
    SUE, as a Texas resident, I fervently hope Grady Hillman's research will induce Texas to start writing programs in our prisons. Thanks for posting the information. I think I'll see if I can get in touch with this guy and tell him of our interest, and ask whether the powers that be are showing any interest. ...Babi

    BaBi
    February 18, 2004 - 11:49 am
    I don't know how to do a clickable, but the site below has an interview with Grady Hillman which documents the savings these writing programs can mean for a prison administration, as well as the significant drop in inmate violence and unrest, and lower rate of return to prison. You have to wonder, how can any prison system not introduce such a program? ..Babi

    http://www.communityarts.net/readingroom/archive/hillman71.php

    Nancy Birkla
    February 18, 2004 - 12:40 pm
    Wow, this is so great -- being able to sit back and click onto the results of the research of others! Thanks so much to each of you paricipating in this discussion. I'm feeling so excited over my newfound motivation to become much more pro-active (on a local level now, in addition to the national spotlight), concerning prison education/issues. This is something SeniorNet has done for (to) me!

    Starting this weekend, I hope to have much more free time available to begin working (in earnest) toward networking w/various individuals who oversee programs related to incarceration-related concerns -- programs that are geared toward change.

    We (in society) all say we want the same thing, for criminals to be transformed, to change, and to then lead productive lives; yet we seem to think such change should magically occur without teaching and encouraging alternative skills and lifestyles.

    Don't we all operate better in life with loving support and positive reinforcers?

    SpringCreekFarm
    February 18, 2004 - 08:34 pm
    Babi, thanks for the link to the Grady Hillman article. I'm thinking I might write a letter to our governor and the prison commissioner with a link to the article. It might help their pleas to the legislature. Our prisons are overcrowded--we have some in private prisons in nearby states--and this looks like it could help. I hope the grant program AU and AIM and the Arts Council have started is a huge success. I was pleased to see that it is in the Women's prison--also in one of the male prisons.

    I'd like the young person who robbed me to be exposed to such a program. He needs emotional healing. Sue

    tutormentor
    February 18, 2004 - 09:11 pm
    I posted an introduction to the Tutor/Mentor Connection (T/MC) a few weeks ago and I'm pleased to see how far the conversation has proceeded since then. I'd like to tell you more about the T/MC.

    My organization hosts a internet library with links to research on poverty and to organizations that try to help children and youth move to jobs and careers, hopefully without entering the justice system. We also lead a year-round public awareness campaign intended to get people to look at the information and discuss it as you are here.

    On our www.tutormentorexchange.net web site we post maps of Chicago that show where poverty is most concentrated and where poorly performing schools are most concentrated. The research shows that many of those in prison have not gone far in school, and many come from high poverty areas. It also shows that many return to just a few neighborhoods in big cities. This taxes social services and means that the role models most kids see are people who have been in prison.

    We post a variety of Power Point essays on the web site that illustrate the timeline from birth to careers and the leadership needed to help every child born in a poverty neighborhood today be starting a job and career by age 25.

    At each age level on this timeline, age appropriate tutoring, mentoring, youth development or career development programs could help kids move to the next level. The age 16-24 group is one of the most difficult to reach, yet recent research shows that there are a huge number of youth age 16-24 who are out of school and unemployable, due to poor schooling or criminal records.

    Since 1993 we've been building a database of non-school tutor/mentor programs that offer services to help keep kids moving to careers. We use our maps to show where these programs are located in the city, and what neighborhoods are underserved. Our purpose is to attract a more consistent flow of volunteers, leaders, donors and business partners to each existing program. This is what leads to quality and impact. At the same time, we seek to motivate churches, business, hospitals and universities to form new programs to fill voids, drawing upon the lessons learned from existing programs.

    This discussion illustrates how upset people become when they read about the injustices of poverty. Our goal is to turn that anger into action and innovation that leads to more and better tutor/mentor programs in poverty areas of Chicago and other cities. It is not enough to have one or two good programs serving a few kids or a single age group. A city must have a full range of good programs, serving every poverty neighborhood. We suggest ways that can happen if LEADERS act as leaders, or as some say, "walk the walk, instead of talk the talk".

    For people in this discussion in means a) learning what programs are trying to educate men and women in prison, and help them find meaningful jobs once they are out of prison; b) it also means you need to build an understanding of what programs are tryiing to keep youth from prison in the first place; c) then there is a need to find ways to support those programs with a consistent flow of dollars, volunteer time, advocacy, etc; c) the next step is finding ways to help new programs start where none exist; d) finally, there is a need to develop ways to help each program learn from each other so they can innovate ways to improve from year to year.

    We try to facilitate this process through the actions of the Tutor/Mentor Connection.

    Daniel F. Bassill, Tutor/Mentor Connection, 800 W. Huron, Chicago, Il. 60622

    BaBi
    February 19, 2004 - 12:15 pm
    Thanks, Daniel, for an impressive explanation of the Tutor/Mentor Connection. ..Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    February 21, 2004 - 09:25 am
    Early last week, Linda (Hairy) mentioned an e-mail I sent her in which I attempted to explain a current lawsuit involving the contributors to Wally Lamb’s book, Couldn’t Keep it to Myself (in response to a question Linda had posted into this discussion). Linda then wanted to post the e-mail I sent her, but she graciously held off when I explained to her that I felt uncomfortable with posting it before I had the chance to edit what I wrote slightly. I’ve now had time to do so, and I believe I’ve left intact the essence of all I wrote, while protecting a little better some of the personalities involved.

    The jist of it is that all of the other formerly incarcerated contributors (with the exception of me, since gratefully my incarceration occurred in a different state) have been presented with “bills” and are now expected to repay the state of CT for a cost of incarceration bill, calculated at a rate of $117.00 per day each spent incarcerated. The bills range from I believe around $60,000.00 to over $900,000.00, and liens have been attached to any earnings that come from book sales (as well as some other earnings too, which I’ll get to later). The state has also sued the publisher, although I’m less familiar with the dynamics of that suit, so I can’t really address that particular aspect of the situation.

    The lawsuit and liens stem from a rarely utilized CT statute that allows the state to collect money if a former inmate happens into a “windfall” situation, like lottery winnings, estate settlements, etc. The statue does not include any language that justifies seizing rightful income.

    No other former inmate who has gained viable employment, utilizing skills attained from taking classes while in prison, has ever been required to repay the state -- only the contributors to CKITM (although many former inmates have earned far more money as the result of their rehabilitative efforts, than any of these women have earned thus far).

    I've been trying to get an update from at least one of the released women, who might better address the issue (especially the eventual meeting w/AG Blumenthal), but none of the women are regular e-mail users, which may account for why I've not heard anything back yet (at over a week since e-mailing the discussion questions pertaining to this). I'll follow up through "snail mail," and maybe I can still get a more firsthand response at some point, but Ginny has reminded me that some folks participating in this discussion did not participate in the book discussion, and don’t know what suit is being talked about now in this discussion, so I will give the version I understand to be fairly accurate.

    The following is an article that appeared in the Christian Science Monitor, concerning the law suit. Out of the scores of articles that have appeared in publications across the nation, I think this one "feels" the best to me -- like a fair reflection of the facts of the matter (well, except for the part where CT officials told their version of things):

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0327/p17s01-usju.html

    And then follows a link to the "Cost of Incarceration Statute" that was utilized for the first time EVER to attach liens to viable incomes of the women who wrote for CKITM.

    The main issue for all involved is the arbitrary manner in which the statute is being applied only to these women. And the problem with fighting it is that great care is being taken so it doesn't backfire into a situation that mandates ALL released inmates to have to pay back their cost of incarceration. That would be even worse by all accounts!

    http://www.cga.state.ct.us/2002/olrdata/jud/rpt/2002-R-0906.htm

    That the women's contracts w/HarperCollins were "discovered" through searches of the inmates' mail is not how I recall things happening. I have a copy of a somewhat threatening letter dated a full 6 months prior to any of us signing our publishing contracts, addressing the upcoming tentative publication, along with the response HC sent asking for input and cooperation between all involved.

    My understanding is that nothing was heard again, from any CT officials, until summonses were served to the women during publication week (in a rather dramatic fashion, I might add). At that point I had already been told of many letters being sent between Wally, HarperCollins, the CT Dept. of Corrections, and CT's Attorney General, requesting input and cooperation, with no response ever offered.

    Since (gratefully) I'm not directly involved in the suit, all of the information I've received has come to me through Wally and a couple of the women who have been directly involved. All have presented identical stories that differ significantly from the one AG Blumenthal has given to the media. In one particular interview he stated he would “love to meet with the women,” yet he resisted doing so, even after multiple requests on behalf of the women involved. It wasn’t until the women hired an attorney to help them, that Mr. Blumenthal finally did schedule one meeting with them, which was held I believe in early April of 2003 a couple of months after the interview in which he spoke of his desire for dialogue w/the women. Two of the women who participated in that meeting both told me they did not feel “heard,” and that the meeting was “gratuitous” in nature, at best.

    The reason the women asked (begged) to meet w/ the Attorney General in the first place was to discuss the hardship the liens against their incomes were provoking. At the time, four of them had been fairly recently released from prison and a couple were working at slightly over minimum wage jobs, while trying hard to resituate in life. The money earned was not significant enough to help the state much, but it was enough to cover some necessities like paying a security deposit on an apartment or a down payment toward the purchase of a used car, as one of the women was (and still is, for that matter) taking a bus back and forth to work. One of the women wanted to go back to college and had planned on using her earnings to help pay her tuition. Another had started her own business and wished to upgrade equipment, etc. The liens and subsequent seized monies not only would eliminate the women’s abilities to more easily access some necessities in life but they provoked additional hardships too.

    One example is that any seized money still counts as "income," and it must be reported as such. The women will need to pay income taxes on book royalty monies earned, even though never actually receiving any cash. Although incomes (from their “regular” jobs) cannot be garnished to pay their exorbitant bills, tax refunds and any other "auxiliary" money can be seized as well.

    The higher income level actually disqualified one of the women from receiving some assistance for families and children she was receiving prior to publication, even though now she technically has even less money "in pocket" than before the book published.

    (to be continued)

    Nancy Birkla
    February 21, 2004 - 09:29 am
    The worst of it probably involves the still-incarcerated women. Bonnie Foreshaw's "bill" totals over $900,000.00. She is considered indigent while in prison, with little family support. The way things stand now, any income she receives from book sales will automatically go to the state, and she will leave the prison in her current indigent status, and still owing a staggering bill that she couldn't possible pay back in her lifetime.

    One of the women will be deported upon her release (since she was not yet a US citizen at the time of her incarceration and now will never qualify for citizenship), so she will no doubt need to leave her 4 children behind when she starts over in a different country with no money, in addition to no family. And by the way, as I see it (and this is my own personal opinion) family members of some of these women are surviving victims of crimes; after all, haven’t some been left without a parent? And yet none of the money earned from the book is allowed to be used even to help support these children while their mother is incarcerated (the one who will be deported has minor children).

    I can tell you first-hand is that I have requested being able to send a small amount of money to be deposited into each of the currently incarcerated writers' accounts (so they might better be able to afford buying stationary and stamps for writing back to kind individuals who have sent letters of support). I was informed that under no circumstances would I be allowed to send any money, because such an action would constitute a gift, and inmates cannot receive gifts of any kind.

    Bonnie usually maintains a balance of less than $3.00 a week in her inmate account, and that's it. That’s how much money she has available to spend at the prison’s canteen each week, on personal items, even though she has attended classes and worked in varying capacities the entire 18 years she’s been incarcerated. Just last week I received a letter from her with a second letter enclosed that she’d written to another individual. Bonnie asked me if I'd mind putting the second letter into another envelope and then forwarding it to the other person, because she only enough money to buy one stamped envelope, the one she sent my letter in.





    Here are the comments Wally Lamb had in the S/N CKITM book discussion:

    SN: Since none of the writers in Couldn't Keep it to Ourselves mention the crime for which they were incarcerated, why is it that a suit has been brought against you and the women by the State of Connecticut? • Would you want to comment on what's happening with that lawsuit at this time? WL: When we first discussed the possibility of a book, I imagined it as a desktop-published, stapled-in-the-middle, photocopied pamphlet of a thing that I’d have reproduced so that the women could see and share their work in print. My publisher, Judith Regan, got a look and said the writing deserved professional publication. The women were excited about the possibility that something positive, something educational, might result from their hard work. And from the start, they wanted to “give back,” too. After much discussion, Interval House, a wonderful program that assists the victims of domestic violence, was chosen as a revenue-sharing partner.

    When professional publication became a reality, I immediately contacted the Connecticut Department of Correction, informing them that a book was planned, sending them writing samples, and requesting a meeting so that we could discuss their concerns and so that I could be guided by DOC in this effort. I was met with a year-long wall of silence, as were the publisher’s lawyers when they inquired about contracts for the women. There were several calls, several requests to meet, no response. We were, therefore, surprised when, the week before publication, the women learned they were being sued by the State of Connecticut for the cost of their imprisonment. The state also sued the publisher for having paid the released women. To my way of thinking, the project was purposely ambushed.

    The Son of Sam statute, which forbids convicted felons from profiting from their crimes, does not apply to this case because the women did not write about the specifics of their crimes. Instead, the state invoked its little-used “cost of incarceration” statute, which had never before been applied to released inmates. At a rate of about $117 per day, the state sued the writers for the daily cost of their incarceration. The imprisoned writers had received no money whatsoever and those who’d served their sentences and been released had received a modest book sale income of $5,600 each—otherwise known as seed money to begin their rehabilitated lives. Suddenly, they were saddled with bills of several hundred thousand dollars, sums that they cannot possibly pay and which thwart their efforts as they take their first tentative steps back into the work force. (One writer quipped, “Gee, if I’d known it was costing me $117 a day while I was in there, I would have ordered room service.) The lawsuit was particularly demoralizing to the still-incarcerated writers. SN: Are you able to comment or would you care to comment on the lawsuit the State of Connecticut has instigated against the York writers about proceeds received from "Couldn't Keep it to Myself" ? WL: Connecticut’s Attorney General, Richard Blumenthal, contends that the state deserves whatever money the writers make (and, apparently, several hundred thousand more) because the women never would have become published authors if Connecticut had not convicted and imprisoned them. In my opinion, this argument blithely dismisses the women’s writing talent and their work ethic and sends them the message that the state is more interested in retribution than rehabilitation. Why are we not sending them the message that hard, honest work brings reward?

    (me again now) I can only imagine how much time and money this whole thing has cost the state for such a small return. I promise I’m telling the truth when I state that none of us has earned a significant amount of money from the book, to date. Sorry, but to me it seems like "much ado" about "nothing much," a purposeful action of continuing punishment and punitive revenge for revealing truths to the reading public.

    I hope you find all this is helpful in better understanding what's been going on between Wally, the contributors to CKITM, and the state of CT.

    BaBi
    February 21, 2004 - 09:59 am
    Nancy, the more I learn about the Connecticut lawsuit the more appalled I am. If I were on the jury hearing this case, I would decide against the State on the grounds that their demands are not reasonable. I would think the women have a fair chance of winning this suit, but heaven only knows when it will come to trial. Meanwhile, I wonder if their attorneys could get them some kind of injunction that tells the State to 'lay off until the court decides'? (And there's another major expense...attorneys to represent them.) ...Babi

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 21, 2004 - 10:34 am
    Is there any way we could help Bonnie. Are all monies received considered gifts. Could we send stamps, etc. I have so many problems with the state at this point. Why would they want to throw the women back into the most abject poverty. It makes no sense whatsoever. At no time, was the prison trashed...

    GingerWright
    February 21, 2004 - 11:48 am
    I am also Very upset by all of what is going on by the state. Will send stamps if permited to do so. Seems to me that George Orwell's 1984 book just had the date on it 20 years early.
    Ginger

    JoanK
    February 21, 2004 - 11:53 am
    I agree. Find out if there are other small things we can send.

    Malryn (Mal)
    February 21, 2004 - 12:14 pm
    I am appalled by what's going on in Connecticut. Both GINNY and I have posted links to this discussion in the discuaaion of Studs Terkel's book Hope Dies Last, hoping to draw the attention of people who might not know about this situation.

    I am also appalled by the appointment of Bill Pryer as Federal Judge to the Eleventh Circuit federal bench in a move by the President of the United States that went around the U.S. Senate. This is a severe blow to the rights of women in this country, incarcerated or not.
    An anti-choice and anti-privacy judicial activist, Bill Pryor, has been appointed to the Eleventh Circuit federal bench just a month after the surprise appointment of anti-choice Charles Pickering to the Fifth Circuit bench.



    Mr. Pryor has called Roe v. Wade an "abominable decision." If you'd like to do something about this, please click the links below.

    CLICK HERE TO PROTEST THE PRYOR APPOINTMENT

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    GingerWright
    February 21, 2004 - 12:50 pm
    Nancy, Are the mens prisons Making the men pay for there incaraton?

    Hairy
    February 21, 2004 - 07:09 pm
    Thank you, Nancy, for taking the time to explain this more fully for us all. Can you just see someone walking away from prison and being robbed on the way out? That's just what they want to do.

    How about sending some gooey-filled candy to Blumenthal, et al, and put some truth serum inside each of the candies?

    Hats
    February 22, 2004 - 08:00 am
    I can't understand why prisoners can't receive gifts. That seems heartless and cruel. If you are visiting a prisoner, what can you give them? If you are writing them, what can you send them? Nothing???

    Nancy Birkla
    February 22, 2004 - 02:45 pm
    Wow, feels a little like "old home week" now -- look at all these wonderful, familiar names!

    I've been jotting down many notes concerning questions and ideas, going all the way back to the beginning of this discussion, and I've been (slowly) researching and contacting individuals and organizations, searching for some answers. So, bear with me, as I'm assured this discussion will be ongoing for some time into the future, so there's no reason to rush.

    I wish I could give you different answers to all of your questions concerning the women from CKITM, and YCI, but I can't. No gifts means no gifts, and yes, even postage and stationary constitute gifts, so no -- we cannot send any.

    All prisons have different rules, but at York the only people who are allowed to send money to be deposited into an inmate's account are those who are on an inmate's official "visitor's list," usually family members, and even they are not allowed to give any gifts; anything the women have must be purchased by them at the prison. Although all of the women's families struggle, I'm told most are managing to help out by depositing money to cover essentials that the women need to purchase, including said stationary and pre-stamped envelopes, which they must purchase (at greatly inflated rates) through the prison.

    As far as I know, Bonnie is the only one who really struggles to purchase essentials. One thing I'm getting ready to try is to see if I might be able to get on her official vistor's list (as I have an upcoming trip to CT planned for late April). Then, as I understand things, I would be able to send modest monetary contributions from time to time. But I'm not holding my breath that the prison will let an out-of-state convicted felon even get on their visitor's list! We'll see soon enough though, huh?

    I will (sometime hopefully within the next few days) post some things that both Barbara Lane and Bonnie Foreshaw have written to me and have given permission for me to share. Most important would be their wish (and mine too) for anybody who feels outraged, concerning dynamics of this particular situation to begin focusing outwardly on what can be done about the huge problems in our current criminal justice system, as a whole.

    Even from inside prison, they are networking and advocating for change, not to make their own lives any easier, but so maybe in the future some of the same things won't continue happening with others. Barbara has given me names of some organizations that I'm working on getting information about.

    Although Ginny has reminded me that some folks in this discussion are unfamiliar with issues carried over from the book discussion, and I agree to continuing to answer questions when I can, I've been attempting to (admittedly) sway the conversation away from the book (CKITM) and onto general issues concerning the many problems we in society have not only created concerning incarceration issues, but now I believe that we continue to exasperbate, through our own denial and ignorance.

    When I use terminology like "ignorance," I'm really not alluding to stupidity or even willfull wrong-doing; what I mean is that sometimes we approach situations with overly simplistic attitudes, like we chant, "just say no to drugs," or "we need to get tougher on crime." And we trot along our jolly ways fully emerged in our own sense of idealism.

    Some years later, we then sit back and look at the same problems we started out with, that have grown by humongous proportions, and rather than re-address what we are doing, or how we might do things differently, we just re-embrace and shout even louder the very same idealogical nonsense that never worked in the first place.

    But when we say it like this "YOU MUST, MUST, MUST SAY NO TO DRUGS!!!", or "OK, WE"RE SERIOUS NOW, WE WILL LOCK YOU UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY!" we somehow become sure it will work this time. So we trot (again) along our jolly way, etc., etc., etc.

    The purpose of publishing our book was not to generate sympathy in hopes of making life better for any of us in the present. We all want more than anything else to see change in the future. So if you're interested in this discussion, then you are already doing exactly what you can do to help us (and ultimately that does mean helping Barbara, Bonnie, and so many other people who just want to figure things out, change, and then live life differently in the future).

    Ginny
    February 23, 2004 - 08:04 am
    This is the most wonderful discussion! I am so proud of it and the information being brought here, thank you Nancy, we need to get that up on HTML pages too for permanent record, and thank all of you posting and those of you reading it writing me, thank all of you for your interest, I am really proud of this one.

    Tutormentor I'm proud to see YOU here too, thank you, we need to look at several issues you and Nancy and our readers have brought up. I have a very good feeling about this, I have great hopes for it.

    I don't see anything wrong with pushing the book Couldn't Keep it to Myself, either, it's an important book, one of a kind, and I am proud we have it here and one of the authors and are about to hear from two more, that's very exciting. I myself am hopelessly behind in everything slowly catching up, and am writing (I'll send out a letter) the still incarcerated authors by the end of this week, if ANY of you would like to express ANYTHING to them, email it to me and off it goes in the mail!

    If you get People Magazine you will be interested to see another crusader you know featured and that's Eve Ensler. Those of you in the What I Want My Words to Do to You will be interested to learn that in the February 16 issue of People Magazine, Eve Ensler has a huge spread, she's launched a global campaign to end violence against women, if you can get a copy, do read it, it's very interesting. I think we want to write her as well?

    I am reading the very powerful, stunning Achilles in Vietnam, have you all read it? We will offer it here in the fall along with The Iliad but here's a quote from it that I thought pertained to us here?
    I shall argue throughout this book that healing from trauma depends upon communalization of the trauma-being able safely to tell the story to someone who is listening and who can be trusted to retell it truthfully to others in the community.
    In this case, don't you see what both Wally Lamb and Eve Ensler have done and which Nancy continues to do? They are doing the same thing, such important work? Such important work, it's very fine to even be part of it a little!

    more later….

    BaBi
    February 23, 2004 - 03:17 pm
    I was surprised and gratified to find a copy of Andy Thibault's book, Law and Justice in Everyday Life in my mail. He was kind enough to send it to me.

    I won't be able to get to it immediately (5th in my current stack), but let me know if any of you would like to read it when I'm done. ...Babi

    kiwi lady
    February 23, 2004 - 04:49 pm
    Nancy - You have the most heartless prison system. Ours is so good compared to that. I do not see why women who are on good behaviour and getting on with prison life could not get small gifts such as notebooks and stamps. It would be nice if we could give each woman a journal so they could continue writing. It would be nice to be able to send shampoo and soap too. Who are the people making money from the prison store? Why do so many Americans have this revenge mentality - it pervades all of your society from where I sit. I am sad for the women in Wally's class.

    Hats
    February 24, 2004 - 06:21 am
    Kiwi, I feel sorry for these women too. From what I can understand, these women are refused gifts, and on top of that, prices are very high or inflated at the prison store. I think the prison authorities in U.S. have tuned into more punishment and less rehabilitation.

    When our children do wrong, we punish them but at some point, we lift the punishment and begin to show them love and how to right their mistake. Shouldn't we take these same methods into the prison system?

    Nancy Birkla
    February 24, 2004 - 06:22 am
    I found this article yesterday, which pretty much sums up many concerns that all of us associated with CKITM have attempted to express.

    I plan on contacting this organization to see if I can get more information from them. What appears on this one page reflects much of what I understand to be factually accurate.

    http://www.nationalhomeless.org/health/incarceration.html

    tutormentor
    February 24, 2004 - 08:08 am
    You all have listed many books and articles that are important reading, however, someone would need to wade back through all of the discussion just to find these. If someone will take the lead in building a web page where an index of books and articles related to this issue can be collected, then we any anyone else could go to that location for on-going learning at any time in the future. If such an archive already exists, please share the web address.

    Dan Bassill Tutor/Mentor Connection www.tutormentorconnection.org

    Stephanie Hochuli
    February 24, 2004 - 01:39 pm
    I will say that I used to own a used book store. Relatives of inmates in Orango county, Florida were allowed to send books to an inmate. Just not directly. They would bring lists into me and I would package up the books and send them on to the inmate. Is this allowed in Connecticut? Or anywhere else? I sent off packets of books every other month to several inmates. They just could not be pornographic or very violent. The prison had a list of forbidden authors.

    Malryn (Mal)
    February 26, 2004 - 10:09 am
    NANCY, thank you for the National Coalition for the Homeless site. I have posted it in the Studs Terkel discussion so more people will be aware of it and hopefully follow suggestions about how to become active about this important issue.

    Mal

    Hats
    February 26, 2004 - 12:06 pm
    Nancy,

    Thank you for the article you posted. I am reading and rereading it. There is a lot of information in it that I did not know. It is interesting to know that because of lack of housing or unemployment men and women who have been freed from prison can find themselves living on the street without a home.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 27, 2004 - 06:59 am
    I'm sorry to be so delayed in getting to this. I mentioned last week that I'd recently received letters from both Barbara and Bonnie. For those of you who might be unfamiliar with who these women are, they are both fellow contributors to Wally Lamb's recent book, Couldn't Keep it to Myself, an anthology of stories written by formerly or currently incarcerated women. Both Barbara and Bonnie remain incarcerated at York Correctional Institution in Niantic CT. Barbara is about 8 years into a ten year sentence, and Bonnie has been incarcerated for over 18 years now. Her sentence is 45 years w/out parole.

    I've never met either of these women in person but have developed long-distance friendships with both over the past year, through backs and forths using standard mail. Barbara and Bonnie are both very faithful about responding to every letter I send, and they've been able to "participate" in book online book discussions by proxy (me) in the past.

    When I last wrote, I mentioned this discussion to each of them, but at the time I didn't realize it (the discussion) would continue past the month, so I did not ask any specific questions of them. Each did address prison education/issues regardless. What follows is a little of what they wrote:

    Bonnie: "I'm so pleased to hear of your involvement in the promotion of Prison Education. I am a strong supporter of education in general, but for inmates, gaining an education is especially important.

    My own experience of learning while incarcerated makes me better able to appreciate and cope with life, through living, caring, understanding, helping others, etc. The good times plus the not so good times have become much easier to absorb and embrace.

    Everywhere we look, all over the world these days, there is war, violence, and abuse. You are right when you say it's all about inner-peace. I am at peace with myself and with the people in my world, but are the people in my world at peace with themselves?"

    And from Barbara (will seem a bit disjointed, because I'm pulling excerpts from different paragraphs from a really long letter):

    "I heard our book has been chosen by the CT Library Association as their 'Book One' [book of the year for 2004]. This will mean more exposure in libraries, so more people will be reading our message and they won't have to spend any money to do so . . ."

    "I've been trying to disperse info about CT-Live to the other girls here, and I've been corresponding with a woman who has a website, Making the Walls Transparent (MTWT) which attempts to make some prison-related injustices more public.

    My time is dwindling down, and because of the book I now have a little bit of a voice, so I'm trying hard to help the women who will remain here and who will come here after I leave . . . "

    "I gave your P.O. box address to one women, [name witheld], who is experiencing many education problems here. I also gave her the contact info for CT-Cure and MTWT.

    Our current principle seems to discourage education, especially vocational or anything beyond a GED. The previous principle really encouraged the girls to go to school. I don't see that happening anymore, especially since we have lost all of our college classes due to budget cuts . . . "

    "Thanks for telling me about WGSU using CKITM as a textbook. I may end up living in Georgia [with daughter] after I am released, but it's hard thinking about what I can do when this is over.

    Dog training is definately a possibility and something I really enjoy. It is the strangest thing, though, the PUP and the Hospice programs I'm involved with here at the prison can provide no paperwork to your master file confirming that you've ever been involved in the programs [prison policy]. So when you are preparing to leave, the parole board has no documentation concerning your efforts or your experience.

    This is my fourth year in the PUP program, and my fourth dog, Riley, will be leaving around March 9th, after which I will have time to train one more dog. I have yet to receive any type of written evaluation, even for myself to hold, and I've been a trained Hospice Volunteer for over a year with no proof even of my training and subsequent certification.

    Recently we've had our first Hospice patient die here at the prison. I got involved in Hospice through visiting her in the medical unit last year, mostly because she was so lonely. Her illness progressed quickly, and she died on January 22nd.

    In the past, Hospice patients were sent off the prison grounds, either to a hospital or sometimnes even home to die, but now they have to stay here until the end."

    Ok, it's me Nancy again. I guess that's about all I have from these two for now, although I am planning on writing to both of them this weekend, asking specific questions concerning prison education (or the more recent recent lack of). Thank God for and Bless those who are dedicated volunteers, professionals from all over the country who continue taking various educational/therapeutic programs into our prisons, on their own time and at their own expense!

    One question I will be asking the women is what they fear losing in the future. I will also ask what programs have already been pulled at a detremental expense to prisoners and ultimately society.

    If anyone out there has a question you would like me to include, please feel free to post. Or if you'd like to personally contact either or both of the women through mail, I'd be happy to forward a letter sent to my P.O. Box, which is: Nancy Birkla, P.O. Box 236, Georgetown, IN 47122.

    You would need to address an outside envelope to me and put your letter in a plain envelope inside, which I can then address. If you do not feel comfortable giving your home address, but you want to tell one or both of them something, or if you have a question you'd rather not post, I can send whatever you have to say on to them, without your return address, and they could respond back through me, rather than directly to you.

    Otherwise, if you'd want to e-mail a message for one of them, you could do so through me (nbirkla@aol.com). I'd be happy to either black out an e-mail address or cut and paste the content onto a clean paper before sending it on, if you'd wish to do it that way.

    FYI, although I've given both Barbara and Bonnie my home address, both know that only my P.O. Box address is allowed to be given out to other inmates. And Barbara (God love her) has taken to sending her letters to the P.O. Box as well, so I do won't ever have to "feel embarrased" to be receiving mail that's stamped "This correspondence originated from an inmate at a Connecticut Correctional Facility" (her words, not mine). Jeeze, I've assured her I don't really care what anyone thinks, (especially since I have to drive five miles each way to fetch mail delivered to the post office), but still she insists on using the P.O. box.

    Malryn (Mal)
    February 27, 2004 - 08:22 am
    Click here to go to the Making the Walls Transparent website

    Nancy Birkla
    February 27, 2004 - 08:58 am
    Mal, you're one step ahead of me, so thanks! Later on I'll post a few other related links too, but for now -- I'm off to tackle today's non NET-related tasks!

    BaBi
    February 27, 2004 - 12:12 pm
    Nancy, is the PUP program also forbidden to confirm an inmates experience with them if contacted by a prospective employer after discharge? Or the Hospice? I find it hard to understand the rationale of the State in keeping such training a secret!

    I would think someone able to train dogs would be a valuable asset. I suppose one could demonstrate knowledge and capability to some extent, but a reference would be a great help, obviously. ..Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    February 27, 2004 - 03:23 pm
    One would think that helping inmates to become able to find legal, gainful employment (post-prison) would be a priority, but it sure doesn't seem to be the case, does it?

    I keep saying it over and over again; I really do believe it has to do with the "once a criminal, always a criminal, so you must be punished for the rest of your life" mentality that is becoming more and more evident in our criminal justice system.

    I'll ask Barbara about the post-release confirmation of training experience, although I'm quite sure she would not feel so worried about future employment, if such confirmation existed.

    kiwi lady
    February 27, 2004 - 06:57 pm
    If you have a conviction for any sort of fraud here you will never get a job in A Govt department or any job which requires you to handle money in any form even by computer transfer.

    Ginny
    February 28, 2004 - 07:47 am
    NANCY!! For heaven's SAKE this is ANOTHER first here, you as our …what shall we call you besides STAR, our contact with those still incarcerated? I also apologize that I have not been here but you all are dazzling, just dazzling. I declare myself your secretary scrambling to catch up!

    Now first off, Daniel (Tutor Mentor) you betcha, what a good idea, we're working on getting up a page of all of the URLS and also putting Nancy's address in the heading as resource, thank you for that suggestion. We're also going to put everything Nancy posts on HTML pages labelled as to subject, hahaahah for reference.

    Nancy, who is being deported? Brendalis? Not Brendalis? Can somebody "stand" for her? Must she go? I would get on the Official Visitor's List but I live in SC does that make a difference? I can send something if on the Official List? $3.00 in an account? Liens of $900,000? What? What? People no longer trying to buy necessities? What? What? I keep reading that? No gifts? What?

    OK people have sent ME because I was about to write, their greetings to those still in prison, I will forward these to you for your letter, hold off till the first of the week? I want to reread each poignant story before I write, and have been swamped.

    OK I keep rereading the stuff from the Workshop, I personally think I might give up, myself, if…if most of it depends on those outside to help and there's nobody in the first place, where is our hope? Have you all read that over again? What happens when you are released? I have no idea what I thought happened.

    Maybe? Do you think it makes any difference if a website like ours has people who write supportively? I ask because our "internet website" I believe made a difference recently and I know how powerful that support is?

    I know first hand.

    We're not just electronic THINGS, we're also REAL live people, I believe we CAN make a difference, I KNOW we have before!

    If I read it aright, congratulations are in order here, for your Couldn't Keep it to Myself winning a prestigious award? It deserves it and we're very proud to know you.

    Babi, how wonderful of you to write Andy Thibault and how marvelous of him to send a book, it would seem everybody Wally Lamb knows is fabulous, he's almost like a golden fount, the doors keep opening, witness the fabulous Chris Barnett (another Wally idea) in the current Pudd'nhead Wilson discussion, you all need to grab a copy of that thing and come over, it's another Happening!

    Meanwhile, Nancy I will email you (or do you think Barbara and Bonnie and Brendalis surely not deported Brendalis and Michelle would prefer something on stationery? You to decide? Either WAY thank you thank you thank you for offering to be our go between and to bring here the responses from Barbara and Bonnie and we would absolutely KILL to hear from your friend Beck Evans, who oversees Louisville's "Drug Court" Program One of the participants from the college PD workshop (Emerging from the Darkness) that you wrote about last week. He (Robert) tells me he's not so great when it comes to Internet skills but asked that I call him to talk about this (which I will try to do tomorrow). AND your own husband John!!!

    I think Babi said it best:

    Nancy, your enthusiasm, energy and involvement suggest to me that you are well on your way to the same sort of contributions to society as Robert Glenn and Becki Evans are making. I think that the day will come when those of us here will be saying, "Nancy Birkla? I know her!" ...Babi


    I already feel that way, and I would follow Nancy anywhere and I have a feeling that because of her, something good will happen, we can't thank you enough, Nancy, congratulations on your prize winning book, and thank you for all the time and thought and effort and energy you have put into this, how do you want the letters? In mail or in email?

    Either way Monday all of mine and those forwarded to me, go out?

    Let's all email Nancy words of encouragement for Bonnie, recently the victim of sexual harassment for Pete's sake, Barbara whose story moved me to tears, Brendalis, we can't lose Brendalis and Michelle, I want to see what Michelle is thinking now, and how she's getting on, let's write those 4 words of encouragement and see what we can do!

    BaBi
    February 28, 2004 - 08:12 am
    Careful, Ginny. We say things like "we would KILL to hear.."; and after this discussion the first thought that comes to my mind is: "That would land you in a SC prison, wouldn't it?" And I find myself wondering what a SC prison is like. I can see where all this is making me more aware of the prison worlds around us. ...Babi

    Ginny
    February 28, 2004 - 08:28 am
    Not unless I actually do it, Babi, but you're right, it does make us think. Mark Sanford, the Governor of South Carolina, in his recent State of the State address, called for mandatory education for all prisoners and funding for it, I think that's proof of the attitude in South Carolina, and I hope it passes, I think he's on the right track.

    ginny

    BaBi
    February 29, 2004 - 07:21 am
    Good for Gov. Sanford! I'd like to see some changes in that direction here in Texas. Our record is, IMO, evidence of our short-sightedness in that respect. ...Babi

    Ginny
    February 29, 2004 - 08:27 am
    I agree, Babi, I think a whole new way of thinking would be wonderful.

    OK Pat has up the new HTML pages, but they as yet have nothing on them, we'll start with TutorMentor's request (Daniel) and put all the links on them in one place, and I think we can do categories, too? So hopefully by the end of today or tomorrow when you come in you'll find the helpful links all in one place for your reference.

    ginny

    BaBi
    February 29, 2004 - 02:51 pm
    (sigh) GINNY, you and PAT are so smart! And you make it all sound so easy! ... Babi

    JoanK
    February 29, 2004 - 06:52 pm
    BABI: Sigh, sigh. Everyone here knows html but us!!!

    Hairy
    March 1, 2004 - 04:24 am
    Who is html?

    (LOL)

    Linda

    Hats
    March 1, 2004 - 06:46 am
    Tonight, a segment of our local news, here in Tennessee, is about BOOKS BEHIND BARS. I think the reporter will go into the expense of maintaining a prison library.

    Ginny
    March 1, 2004 - 07:00 am
    Hats!! I want to hear about that!! As you know we here have a Book Exchange? And we here donate books for the postage, and we're nearing 3,000 donated. What IF we donated to a prison library somewhere? Hmmm?

    Tell us about it?

    HTML hyper text markup language or something like that, is nothing, it's easy, it's not a matter of being smart, do you all want to learn more about it? We'll set up a folder here and do it, if so.

    Books to Prison Libraries, Books!!!!! BOOKS!!! That sounds like a collaboration made in heaven, let's hear more?

    Here's the HMTL page Pat did so beautifully, did we miss any of your submissions, we're still working on the titles, thank you Pat, for this!

    Resource Links for More Information

    Hats
    March 1, 2004 - 07:06 am
    Ginny, I am excited to hear what will be said. Will tell tomorrow what is reported.

    BaBi
    March 1, 2004 - 08:43 am
    Books to prison libraries is a great idea! I'm sure the authorities would insist on reviewing all proposed submissions. From what Nancy has said, they are particular as to the kind of material that is made available to inmates.

    The page on resources is dandy! I checked out the CT law on reimbursement of costs. It mentions a chart that compares what other States are doing in on this subject. I'd like to see that, but a quick check of the 'ACA.org/publications' didn't turn up what I want. I'll do some more checking. ...Babi

    BaBi
    March 1, 2004 - 09:00 am
    I am still looking for that convenient chart, but meanwhile I am finding that other states have similar laws (Missouri, notably), and others are currently preparing to enact such laws (Georgia). I found the following condition in the Arizona law, which I wish ALL such laws would incorporate.

    C. IF, AFTER A HEARING, THE COURT DETERMINES THAT IMPOSITION OF THE COSTS OF INCARCERATION WILL CAUSE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP TO THE DEFENDANT, THE COURT MAY DEFER OR WAIVE A PORTION OR ALL OF THE COSTS. THE DEFENDANT HAS THE BURDEN OF ESTABLISHING AN INABILITY TO PAY THE COSTS OF INCARCERATION. THE COURT SHALL STATE ON THE RECORD THE BASIS FOR ANY DEFERRAL OR WAIVER OF THE COSTS.

    ...Babi

    Sec. 2. Section 13-809, Arizona Revised Statutes

    Hats
    March 1, 2004 - 04:11 pm
    Well, I watched the report. It seems that in our area more tax dollars are spent on prison libraries than on school libraries. I didn't realize this. I thought it was the other way around.

    Ginny
    March 3, 2004 - 07:49 am
    So Hats, are you saying that in your area there is no need for books for prison libraries? I'm waiting to see what Nancy thinks before I say anything else but I think there may be prison systems in the country who might want books, let's see where this goes, so you're saying the prison libraries are well funded where you live. Do you live in a populated area of the country?

    Babi thank you for that recent information, it makse sense to me, and I'm glad to see Georgia about to enact similar laws, it really does not make sense to me to further punish people with the "costs of incarceration," it would seem that if the state is desirous of sentencing people to "rehabilitation" then they should not charge them for what they have decided, I don't know, what a knotty mess this all is, did you all know ...before we read the Wally Lamb Couldn't Keep it to Myself I had NO earthly idea, this is like the scales falling off eyes or something.

    So we're getting the knowledge and we have a desire to somehow help, the next question is HOW.

    We can certainly write those imprisoned, I need to reread Nancy's posts again where she says she's willing to send them on because there's a problem in the cost of postage and many letters for THEM to respond, so we can email Nancy our greetings, that's awfully nice of you, Nancy, let's do that!

    I've got several greetings sent to me from you for them, so I'll foward THEM on to Nancy too.

    I am glad we're talking so openly about these things, has anybody found out the status of that bill which was to come up in the Connecticut legislature in February? Did it pass? What happened with it, did I miss the announcment here or somewhere else?

    ginny

    Hats
    March 3, 2004 - 08:05 am
    Ginny, from what I can understand, the prison libraries are well funded. It seems that far more tax dollars are spent on prison libraries than on school libraries. The school libraries are not being funded as well as the prison libraries. If anything, the news report was meant to inform people in Southeastern Tn. that school libraries are lacking. The books in school libraries are outdated and well worn. If I am not mistaken, the report covered the whole area of Southeast Tennessee.

    The reporter went on to say that the report is not to say there is anything wrong with funding prison libraries. It is just that the prison libraries here in Southeast Tn. are already well equipped by tax dollars. The school libraries are the ones, in this area, which are not receiving tax dollars.

    Ginny
    March 3, 2004 - 08:20 am
    Hmmm! I wonder how true that is for every state, here WE in the Books deal with books and reading and here WE have exchanged almost 3,000 books, and our purpose in our Books IS to promote reading: not every book would be suitable for every library, school or prison, but some might, hmmm. Hmmm? Thank you for that report, Daniel, does your Mother Cabrini Tutor Mentor Library need books?

    Hats
    March 3, 2004 - 08:28 am
    Ginny,

    If you would like to read about that report, it might help to go to this website. The website is (www.wrcb.com). The report is on the first page. It is called BOOKS BEHIND BARS.

    BaBi
    March 3, 2004 - 11:41 am
    GINNY, that extract was from Arizona law. I didn't see anything like it in the currently proposed Georgia law. Maybe our Georgia SN posters could write their legislators and suggest they include that stipulation in the proposed law. There are bills currently before both the House and the Senate, I believe. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    March 3, 2004 - 12:16 pm
    Here's a text version of the reports Hats speaks of in her post concerning the news report she saw (sorry, no time to fix up w/paragraph breaks, etc.):

    I-Team: The Cost of Books Behind Bars

    Our investigation has uncovered taxpayers are paying 10-times more for prison libraries than they're paying for public school libraries in Hamilton County, and the county school population is twice the state prison population. We're not saying prisoners don't deserve books, but don't children deserve the same?

    When you think prison, you think bars... not books. William Ledford/Prisoner: "Fantasy. Drama. You name it, we probably got a lot of it."

    From magazines, to computers, to books... prison libraries have it. Last year, Tennessee taxpayers spent more than 422-thousand dollars so prisoners would have a place to read. Scotty Hobbs/Prisoner: "We'd be lost without it."

    Just last year, you paid 23-thousand dollars for this library inside the Southeast Tennessee Regional Correctional Facility near Pikeville. But at many libraries inside Hamilton County schools, taxpayers didn't spend a dime.

    Martin asks, "Are you surprised by how much money they're spending?"Charlene Becker/Hamilton County Schools: "I'm absolutely shocked."

    Jamie Isenhour/Hixson High Librarian: "Unbelievable. Unbelievable." Unbelievable, because last year Hamilton County taxpayers spent just under 45-thousand dollars on school libraries... almost 10-times less than what Tennessee spent on prison libraries... about 422-thousand dollars. And that's despite the fact there are twice as many students in Hamilton County Schools as there are state prisoners in Tennessee. Testerman: "I think it's good to bring into question our priorities." Schools get block grants from the county, and those are shrinking. School leaders decide where their money is best spent. Sometimes, libraries get what's left. Sometimes, they get nothing to replace old, worn-out books and out-dated reference guides. At White Oak Elementary, here's a book about past presidents. The last one mentioned?... Ronald Reagan.

    Becker: "It's an ongoing struggle for our libraries." At Hixson High, books are showing their age..... Isenhour: "The average age is 1978." Martin responds, "Jimmy Carter was president?" Isenhour: "Yes." And students here weren't even born. But contrast that library with a prison library, and you'll find big differences. Hobbs: "I know we need it. I guess kids need it too."

    The prison system points out the law requires them to provide prisoners with a law library. That's almost 86-percent of the library budget. They're also required to provide newspapers from every major city in the state. The Department of Correction admits...

    Johnson: "It is shocking how much money is spent on legal materials." But still, even if you take out those requirements for law libraries and newspapers, prison libraries still spend about twice what many school libraries in Hamilton County do. And some schools get nothing.

    Ledford: "With them not getting any, I do feel they deserve it." Martin asks, "More than you guys?" Ledford answers, "I'd say they deserve it more than we do." But the state's Department of Correction argues books behind bars make good sense.

    Jennifer Johnson/Tennessee Department of Correction: "I think it's money well spent. It reduces idleness and helps us educate them." And educators don't argue that. But they do question priorities, asking politicians if prisoners deserve this kind of cash, don't kids? Testerman: "I tell them they need to wake up and see an ounce of prevention, I think Ben Franklin said, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

    Some public school libraries get money besides tax money. PTA fundraisers and Coke machine money sometimes bring in extra cash when none is budgeted. But even then, the numbers don't approach what we found you're spending on prison libraries.

    Hats
    March 3, 2004 - 12:33 pm
    Nancy, thank you for printing the report out.

    Nancy Birkla
    February 1, 2004 - 07:40 am
    I have many questions concerning the above mentioned report but a serious lack of spare time over the next few days.

    I will try to make an appointment for sometime within the next week w/a colleage of mine who is on top of many prison educational concerns, not only in KY (where I work), but nationally.

    Since I don't know much about TN, I can't really comment on this particualr article, but I do know that in the state of KY, all schools, K-12, as well as post-secondary have just been hit with a third straight year of budget cuts, and our state's prisons (as of July 1, 2003) no longer have a red nickel of state funding for education, not even to teach GED prep. Nobody is contesting the fact that all schools are presently being short-changed, and that all states (at least that I am aware of) are running on huge deficits.

    Here's the problem -- where is all the money going? Well, a whole lot of it is going into the building and facilitating of more and more prisons. Which gets us back to the main focus of this discussion, which is what can we do to get ensure prisoners leave in better shape than when they arrive? recognize a viscious cycle when you see one?

    anneofavonlea
    March 3, 2004 - 05:04 pm
    Can't help commenting on the weighted article re money spent on prison libraries. Firstly if you ask the right question,"do you think money should be spent on childrens libraries" of course the answer will be yes, but whether that needs to be to the detriment of prisons is a whole nuther question.

    If there has been very little spending on prisons, well of course there will be a catch up needed. Also children have access to public libraries as well as school libraries, even in the small rural area I live our children can access the State Library system.Also if the books requried are text books they will be very expensive which will blow out the cost.

    Sorry, I have no figures it just seems to me another way to divide and rule by government and media.

    Re nancy, who never ceases to amaze me, we had a wonderful programme on Australia Television this week, about an ex-prisoner who is the head of a Queensland organization called "sisters-in-side". she has done tremendous work, and is actually well listened to even by our Prime Minister. She has a wonderful policy and now seems to have also a lot of clout. Wish you could all see it somehow, but guess thats not possible.The organization has this wonderful quote........

    "if prison is the answer, then someone asked a stupid question"

    They assist women prisoners with appeals, and are very anti prisons in general and womens prison in particular, because they are called correctional facilities, but no correctional behaviour is taught in them.She achieved a social work degree whilst incarcerated and is presently studying law, even though her past will probably preclude her from practising. Nancy seems to me you would be an ideal person to head such an organization, as the biggest requirment would be a generous heart.

    Anneo

    Nancy Birkla
    March 3, 2004 - 09:08 pm
    Anneo,

    Greetings! So good to see your name in discussion once again!

    Thank you so much for the information you posted earlier today. I'd never heard of the organization you mentioned, but (because thankfully I have access to our state's library system search engines right here in my own living room) I've found several websites concerning the program you told of.

    I am especially excited to hear about this because currently I'm networking with several individuals who are actually gathering information concerning corrections policies and programs in both Australia and New Zealand. One is a friend who is heading up work on a huge grant proposal that could (hopefully) end up helping my own area.

    Now, I'm going to practice extreme discipline by posting the links without even looking through them, since right now it's after 11 PM, and I have to be at a conference that starts at 9:00 AM (and held in a city almost 3 hours from where I live), so I have a very early morning planned, with a really long day to follow.

    Here are the links, and I hope maybe by the time I'm able to take a look at them (late tomorrow night), others will have posted great things about these sites:

    http://www.sistersinside.com.au/nav.htm

    http://www.sistersinside.com.au/conference.htm

    Thanks again Anneo!

    BaBi
    March 4, 2004 - 01:41 pm
    I have learned that the Texas prison system (Criminal Justice Dept.)has a budgetary category entitled 'Diversion Activities'. I believe the libraries fall in there. The idea of 'diversion', I presume, is to keep the inmates busy so they don't get too restless and make trouble. Consequently, a good deal of money goes into that function.

    On Rehab., in addition to the groups for substance abuse and sexual abuse, there are both a new 'faith-based organization (unquestionably Christian oriented) and a program aimed specifically at young offenders. These constitute pretty much all that Texas is doing in this area. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    March 4, 2004 - 07:34 pm
    OK Folks, hang on to your seats for this one. I had a hunch it went something like this, but I usually try not to react defensively w/out being able to support what I say with facts (unlike the report that Hats heard on the news). Oh and by the way Hats, thank you so much for the scoop on this one!

    Although I didn't doubt the fact that prison libraries in TN did indeed get more money than the public school libraries, I know a thing or two about Library Science, which includes the push toward technological advancements, AND I also know that technology budgets (which impact libraries significantly) are always entirely separate budgets from the money lines that purchase books.

    What the news story failed to mention was the 22 million dollars that the state's public school system got (for 2002-2003 alone), allocated strictly for technological upgrades.

    Pretty much across the board, in public libraries, K-12 schools, post-secondary institutions, etc., hard copy encyclopedias and other resource volumes have been fully replaced by CD-ROM and Internet versions since around 1992, so the part about the outdated, worn and falling apart books is probably a (rather pathetic) dramatic spin on what is more likely a conscious choice to move on into the 20th century w/more advanced resources.

    Additionally, disability laws have changed in recent years, and in order for schools to be compliant, they MUST provide these electronic editions that are compatable with disability assistive softwares.

    http://www.tennessean.com/davidson/school/archives/02/07/20408864.shtml

    Here's another article with a broader time range (7 years ending in 2003) of ongoing and what looks to me like generous spending that has ensured appropriate literacy-related materials have made it into the schools.

    http://www.ena.com/TN_Story.pdf

    Considering that prisoners in TN have no access to the Internet at all, real books going to incarcerated individuals might actually be considered a rather prudent choice of spending, wouldn't you say?

    Hats
    March 5, 2004 - 06:22 am
    Nancy,

    Thank you for further insights on the news report. Glad to see more links to read.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 5, 2004 - 06:25 am
    According to corrections figures listed on the official website for the state of TN (tennessee.gov), in 2003, a total of 19,120 men and women were incarcerated in the state's prisons.

    By using simple division, this means that a whopping total of $2.20 per incarcerated individual was divied out in new prison library resources for the year 2003 (using the news story's own total dollar figure).

    I think what many folks really fear is that incarcerated individuals might actually begin smartening up while behind bars (like apparantly I did) and then yee gads -- we might not have such an easy time skewing facts and otherwise pulling the wool over societies' eyes anymore!

    Ann Alden
    March 5, 2004 - 07:20 am
    I was looking for some info for a friend who has a DIL in one of the Indiana women's prisons and found something that I thought you all might like to know. Maybe-maybe not. Anyway! One of the programs that they have really interested us since her DIL is only 26 and has two youngsters at home. She can apply at the prison to be part of a reading program. In this program, the woman is taped(VCR) reading a story to her children and the tape is then sent to the children. One lady wore a kerchef on her head while reading and included one for her daughter in the VCR envelope just so she could connect better with her daughter. Pretty creative of her, I would say!

    Nancy Birkla
    March 5, 2004 - 08:31 am
    Ann, thank you so much for your input!

    I've found two links concerning Indiana inmate parents, and reading to their children via audio or video tapes.

    The first is an actual prison-run program, involving audio tapings of parents reading to their children, w/the tapes being sent on through the mail to the children. This is a program I was already familiar with.

    http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/isl/ldo/readtome.html

    I had not, however, heard of anything involving the use of videotapes. So far, the only thing I can find is a program that has recently been taken into some prisons by Volunteers of America (VOA). I'm not sure if this is the program you're talking about, or not, but I did find a story concerning this VOA program, which does include some Indiana prisons.

    The problem with this link is that it requires Acrobat Reader, which not everybody has, and also it is a huge file which downloads extremely slowly, even on my faiirly good 'puter. I've tried every way possible to cut and paste the relevant pages, 6 and 7 (only) for posting, but the site won't let me do it. So here is the link; maybe a few will be able to see what I'm talking about:

    http://www.voa.org/Spirit/16_Fall_03.pdf

    I have many friends who work w/VOA in Louisville, so I will try to gain more info concerning this particular project.

    I might once again emphasize how most programs that seem to be the smartest and most helpful are those "brought in" from the outside.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 5, 2004 - 09:05 am
    I recently had a lengthy chat with Wally, during which we talked some about SeniorNet (the mention of which always generates a chuckle out of WL). He didn't know I'd gotten involved with this discussion but was pleased to hear about it and said to send his greetings to everyone.

    Also within the past couple of weeks, Wally's assistant, Aaron, sent me a CD titled "AIDS is a Part Of Us All: One Vision, Many Voices." The CD came enveloped in a beautifully illustrated jacket, with the following words included on the bottom, "You are either infected, affected or effected (Estas infectodo o afectado)."

    This particular CD is a recording of a "poetry jam" that was held at the York Correctional Facility in CT (same prison as CKITM), which was the culmination of a poetry workshop one of Aaron's colleagues from the University of CT took into the prison. CT's Poet Laurerate for 2003 also participated in the actual recorded "jam."

    The CD consists of dramatic readings of participating inmates, credited as "courageous women of York Correctional Institution," on the CD's cover.

    The pieces are presented in a very artistic manner, some are in song version, some readings are accompanied by music, one includes a bi-lingual dubbing over, and a few are "accompanied" only by the eerie silence of the crowded room.

    This morning I sent an e-mail off to Aaron asking for contact info for the guy who brainstormed this particular project (yep, another volunteer effort) and an inquiry about whether the CD is for sale anywhere.

    Hopefully I'll have more to share about this soon.

    kiwi lady
    March 5, 2004 - 11:11 am
    I consider books an essential part of self education. When I was a girl not many of us went to University. Firstly our parents could not afford it and if we left home to get a Govt Grant to study society was disapproving of 17yr olds flatting. When I was a girl most people started University at 17. Nowdays its almost 19 before you go. I am totally self educated and books have been the means to give me a window on the world. My great grandpa was one of the most cultured men I ever knew and his education came totally from books and workers education classes. He ended up an engineer but his love was music and literature.

    I believe there should be an emphasis on adult literacy in Prisons with remedial reading classes and the rest will follow if books are available. My daughter ( the accountant) is working as a volunteer in adult literacy - she loves it. She said the personality change that happens when her pupil realises they CAN learn to read is amazing. Her next goal is to train in her spare time to deal with dyslexia.

    Carolyn

    Ginny
    March 5, 2004 - 05:17 pm
    Gosh what great stuff, thank you again and again Nancy! I'd love to buy a CD if available, and I'm very glad to hear about all these people and organizations DOING stuff! I want to do stuff TOO!!

    We are about Books. We have books. WE have sent out almost 3,000 books. We have people willing to send to prisons. We need to find a prison system that wants books. Should I contact somebody here in South Carolina?

    And see if there's a prison library who might like to have books?

    Carolyn, good for your daughter teaching adult reading, I did that for years and loved every minute of it, in fact if I may brag one of my former students was chosen for the United Way campaign signs, he was a great guy, it's a very worthwhile experience for anybody.

    Should I be asking around to see if any local prisons would like books?

    Greetings to Wally Lamb from all of us!!!! What a guy!


    What a guy! I'm still trying to get over him and this entire experience, (why get over it?)

    Books Behind Bars, I like that slogan. Letters to Encourage! I like that, too. I like things that are doable and I wouldn't take anything for this experience and Nancy, you're fabulous!



    Thank you Ann for that report, I think that is fabulous, love the scarf touch, that benefits child and parent, that's wonderful.

    I know we can do SOMETHING, and I like the idea of everything here being a central clearing house of information, knowledge is power.

    Ginny
    March 5, 2004 - 05:51 pm
    OK on the links I can't see the pdf one at all and when I close it I lose the entire screen but I did read the one about technology in schools and I agree schools should have technology, but surely it's part of training? Is it? In prisons as well?

    Nancy said, Considering that prisoners in TN have no access to the Internet at all, real books going to incarcerated individuals might actually be considered a rather prudent choice of spending, wouldn't you say? Yes I would say and we need to find out where people want real books, why are they not donated? What is it I don't understand about prison libraries? Do they have librarians?

    The prison system points out the law requires them to provide prisoners with a law library. That's almost 86-percent of the library budget. Well once the law library is taken care of and the newspaper subscriptions are paid for what's left?

    You know what? Everybody has a grant but us. We're grantless. I wonder if we could get a grant to put books in prisons, not just any book, we could start with CKITM and build on that? Or?

    Books behind BARS!

    Ann Alden
    March 6, 2004 - 07:04 am
    Here is the link to the ReadToMe program in Indiana women's prisons:

    Indiana's ReadToMe ProgramThought you might be interested in seeing what they are doing.

    Ann Alden
    March 6, 2004 - 07:12 am
    Your link is to that site about the Read-To-Me program in Indiana. Its being accomplished by the Indiana State Library. They provide the video tapes and the children's books. Wonderful program! That's where I read about the kerchief being sent to the little girl.

    Ginny

    Are we sending books or just posts??

    Nancy Birkla
    March 7, 2004 - 07:53 am
    Hi Folks,

    Once again, thanks for everyone's input.

    I've communicated w/Ginny but not the rest of you concerning my inability to really delve into a few things related to this discussion (due to becoming ill myself this past week, then my husband being ill, my work responsibilities that had out of town for 3 out of the past 4 days, etc., etc.).

    Anyhow, I've heard back from many individuals I contacted concerning gaining information for posting here. They're just waiting for me now!

    I had told you all of my friend Becki Evans who oversees Louisville's (in KY) drug court, an intense, structured, alternative program for drug offenders. I've spoken w/Becki a couple of times over the past week, and she told me that she and several graduate students assigned to her program have begun writing a huge grant proposal that will hopefully end up providing future funding for the program.

    About a year ago Becki had encouraged me to apply for a regular position working in the program, but I live in Indiana which disqualified me; only individuals who live in Jefferson County KY can work for the court system there. So now, I've volunteered to assist w/the grand writing, which Becki has gratefully accepted.

    She and I are both particularly interested in gaining information about court/correction programs from countries w/lower incarceration and recidivism rates. Thanks to S/N, I have some info that is sure to help us get in contact with folks who can share some ideas :0).

    I also have been sent a phone number by a man I told of earlier in this discussion who was served out of a KY prison, has gone through a drug/alcohol treatment program for homeless individuals in Louisville (the Healing Place - link provided earlier too), and now he serves as a liason between a mens' prison and the community in a transitions type program. If anybody has any questions I will be interviewing him probably by e-mail and then posting for him (as he admits to "not being very computer saavy" and therefore not comfortable fully integrating in this site, but willing none-the-less to answer questions). Im not sure what happened to the resource links that were in the header, but Emerging From the Darkness (a PD workshop from the college where I work) was where I first mentioned him.

    Additionally, this week I received a return e-mail from an English professor colleage of mine who is writing a short essay about her experience working in the prisons and the surprises that resulted for her through the experience.

    One more thing I will try to do this week is make an appointment to meet with Gaye Holmen, who is the Prison Education Coordinator for our KY Community College System. She's the one who has connections and ideas concerning networking w/prisons nationally.

    Of course S/N's Ginny and I are working together on corresponding w/the CT women from CKITM too.

    I guess that's about it for now -- pretty much just an update. Barring some emergency situation coming up suddenly, I think I should actually have a little time to spare over the next two weeks, during which I really plan on doing some work here in this discussion.

    Oh, by the way, I need to run for now, but later on today I'll try to look up exactly which posts I am referring to in connection with the individuals mentioned in this message; then I will gladly accept questions for any of them.

    BaBi
    March 7, 2004 - 09:27 am
    Sorry to hear you've been ill, Nancy. I hope you and your husband are fully recovered now. To paraphrase one of the current ads...You don't have time to be sick!' ...Babi

    kiwi lady
    March 7, 2004 - 04:42 pm
    Nancy could you ask the person what was the main attribute of the program that he felt enabled him to get clean. Does he feel a program such as he was involved in is an essential part of the rehabilitation process for our prison population.

    Thank you.

    Carolyn

    GingerWright
    March 7, 2004 - 09:54 pm
    Have Not missed one, Thanks.

    Ginny
    March 10, 2004 - 08:54 am
    Thank you , Ginger and Everybody, we are so glad you all are here!

    Nancy, you are such a ball of fire, we're all in your debt and staggering along happily in your wake like ducklings, thank you for all you are doing , very exciting news you on the grant writing team, maybe we can get one here, and you'll have all sorts of experience!

    But hist, did you all see what Nancy just said?

    I also have been sent a phone number by a man I told of earlier in this discussion who was served out of a KY prison, has gone through a drug/alcohol treatment program for homeless individuals in Louisville (the Healing Place - link provided earlier too), and now he serves as a liaison between a men's' prison and the community in a transitions type program. If anybody has any questions I will be interviewing him probably by e-mail and then posting for him (as he admits to "not being very computer savvy" and therefore not comfortable fully integrating in this site, but willing none-the-less to answer questions).


    Super! Will you ask him what he thinks is the MOST helpful thing that assists released prisoners in reentering society, what he thinks are the biggest problems he sees facing them or in the process, and what he thinks needs to be done about it, and if there's ANYTHING we can do!?

    Nancy you said Im not sure what happened to the resource links that were in the header, they are all still there all on a nifty HTML page and you can see it in the heading titled RESOURCE LINKS We'll try to make that more clear, they're still there! Thank you for that page, Pat!

    Well as Nancy said, (here's my own report) I'm finishing up my letters to each of those we read about still in prison: Barbara, Bonnie, Michelle and Brenda and am mailing those tomorrow without fail to Nancy who has kindly offered to send them on, there's still time for any of you to email me your greetings, I'll cut off the email part, so they look like real letters and send them right along, am mailing tomorrow, I wanted to reread their stories AND Nancy's messages from them before writing.

    I've also written the Governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford, to ask what we might do in regards prisons in South Carolina, which is where I live. You may recall that I mentioned previously that Governor Sanford called recently for mandatory education for prisoners, he's a very forward thinking leader, I am very hopeful this may lead to something good.

    Nancy's example is one of action, and that's what I think we need to do, so I am. If you'd like to write anybody, like Babi wrote Andy Thibault, please do, or if you'd like your note (if you haven't written already) included to any of the four women, please email it to me and it's done. I feel good about this opportunity we have here to learn about what's going on in the prison systems in our country, and also hopefully, hopefulllyl, hopefully, to do some small thing that will make a difference. Where there's a will, there's a way, we have the will, we are about books and reading, we have exchanged almost 3,000 books, we will find the way, very valuable discussion here, I really appreciate it, and you all.

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    March 10, 2004 - 09:07 am
    Well, FINALLY I've had time to go back and re-read everything posted thusfar into this discussion. Now (hopefully by this weekend) I'll be able to network some of the questions w/others and also share some things I know concerning laws, etc., that may affect (or at least be cause for discretionary implementation of) prison programs that sound "religious," during times of otherwise strict separation of church and state.

    At work, I've scheduled a showing of Eve Ensler's, "What I Want My Words to do To You" (PBS special re: writing workshop in Bedford Hills NY Federal Prison) for Thurs. 3/25. Many colleagues, some who teach in the college's prison program, have signed on to watch the film and then discuss it.

    Some of you who were not involved in the CKITM discussion may not know that I had struck up a fairly short-term, long distance friendship w/ one of the featured authors from Even Ensler's prison workshop, Kathy Boudin, during which we wrote back and forth several times. Initially I wrote to thank Kathy for writing an amazing review of our book that ended up published in the Los Angeles Times. This was how I first heard about Ensler's film, and I was so excited when I heard S/N would be discussing the film simultaneously w/the CKITM discussion.

    Fortunately for Kathy (but somewhat sadly for me, since it meant "losing" my new friend), she was granted parole last fall. Since one of the conditions of her parole would be "no contact" with any presently or formerly incarcerated individual, she wrote a quick letter to me on her last day in prison to let me know why I wouldn't be hearing from her for a while, but she added that I would hear from again some day :0).

    I feel so happy to know that in addition to our book (which an English instructor is using as her text in several prison writing classes), Eve Ensler's PBS program, and also the poetry jam I told of from the CT prison will be made available in our local prisons for reading/viewing/listening by incarcerated individuals. I know the therapeutic value of inmates connecting with others in like situations cannot be paralleled, yet for all practical purposes "the rules" make it pretty impossible to facilitate these materials getting "in" to them, even through non-personal contact.

    "Donating" the books to the inmates as classroom textbooks that they could keep would not have been permitted, so I purchased the books for the English classes (out of my own pocket) after devising a plan w/the instructor (God love her and her tortured back) to haul the books in and out with her each time she goes to class. She then leaves only photocopies of individual stories for her inmate students to use for writing their assigned essays, which Wally Lamb (God love him too) gave written open permission for the instructor to do (copy anything in the book for educational purposes in the prison classes). Now Wally's assistant has e-mailed telling me several additional copies of the York (AIDS)Poetry Jam CD are on the way for taking into the prison classes too. I really believe some hearts and spirits will be opened up as the result of all these materials "making it inside"

    Well, I need to get rolling for now; I have a couple of late appts. at work, but although I'm going in late, the time is quickly arriving!

    Any questions anybody has concerning "DRUG COURT" (a one-time alternative to prison program for non-violent drug offenders), THE HEALING PLACE (a six month residential drug/alcohol treatment facility for a homeless poulation), or EMERGING FROM THE DARKNESS (the workshop I attended re: "served out" prisoners), please either post or e-mail them to me by Friday (nbirkla@aol.com). No need to re-post questions already asked; I've got 'em written down.

    Barring an emergency, I've got some time scheduled to work on communications and trying to answer questions this weekend. Oh, also, I'm trying to get in contact with the woman from Australia that Anneo told us about (the ex-prisoner who now directs the Sisters Inside prison program).

    Bye for now!

    Ginny
    March 12, 2004 - 06:22 am
    Just rushing in with some exciting news!! We have an extraordinary thing about to happen here this fall on SeniorNet, and we want you to have plenty of notice so you can take part.

    We're going to have a book discussion tentatively scheduled for August of this fall, on the book Achilles in Vietnam?

    The author is Jonathan Shay, MD., PhD, and he is staff psychiatrist at the Department of Veterans Affairs Outpaitent Clinic in Boston. His new book is Odysseus in America: Combat Trauma and the Trials of Homecoming with a Foreword by Senators John McCain and Max Cleland.

    Achilles in Vietnam is an incredible book, NO person should miss it, and Dr. Shay has written he will be "happy to participate" in our online discussion of his book.

    I think Achilles is a very important book, it's short, you can't put it down, it's eye opening, and something every person needs to read, and I hope it is a healing experience for not only those who went thru Vietnam, but those related to them, and I would like to invite all of you to this discussion when it begins, there are things here which we all need to know which will broaden our understanding, for the election and otherwise, we'll do the book probably in August due to Dr. Shay's committments.

    Those of us who know nothing whatsoever about this war will be shocked? This is an important book that everybody should read, I hope you will consider joining us. Here is why I bring this news HERE!

    From the New York Times article on Dr. Shay:

    Like many scientists who cross disciplines, Dr. Shay keeps it all together with a unified, and controversial, theory. He believes that trust-destroying trauma has a single biology and a single psychology, whether it arises from political torture, prostitution, domestic violence or combat.

    He has no use for particularists who want to keep separate accounts for the pain of Holocaust victims, soldiers and abused women. The experience of trauma is unique to each sufferer. Meanwhile, its biology is common to all. So comparing one group's pain to another, Dr. Shay argues, is pointless.



    I have read Dr. Shay's Achilles in Vietnam but not his Odysseus in America, which deals with the trauma of Homecoming, which I am going to buy today.

    Achilles is an incredible achievement, I can't recommend it too highly, whether or not you know anything about the Vietnam War, those in this discussion are acquainted with trauma and that's what he addresses so eloquently, you can't put it down and it's short.
    <br. I hope some of you will join us for this discusion and the sequel that follows it in September (tentative) The Iliad wth Dr. Mark Stone.

    ginny

    Ginny
    March 14, 2004 - 07:24 am
    If you're not reading Hope Dies Last you will want to see Nancy's post there on the situation with her husband, John! Read this A problem with the VA.

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    March 15, 2004 - 05:16 am
    I invite anyone who checks in on this discussion to come back later this week (hopefully by Friday) I should by then be able to share some truly amazing news. I have to wait until after the "official announcement" is made, but Lordy, it's the kind of stuff that keeps HOPE alive in me whenever I begin feeling like all my efforts are for naught :0).

    BaBi
    March 15, 2004 - 08:38 am
    That I want to hear, Nancy. I'll be watching for the BIG NEWS! ...bABI

    Nancy Birkla
    March 16, 2004 - 09:20 am
    A little while back in this discussion I posted some comments from Barbara Lane (CKITM contributor) that included a mention of our book and an upcoming award.

    The CT Library Association has chosen Couldn't Keep it to Myself as their "One Book" for 2004. Not only will all conference members be asked to read this one book prior to their spring convention, to be attended by about 1000 members, but they will all discuss the book together at the conference. Also scheduled for the conference is a speaking/book-reading session by Wally Lamb and several of the book's contributors.

    After the conference, the book will be showcased in every public library in the state of CT for the endurance of 2004.

    Here's a link to an announcement from the President of the CT Library Association:

    http://cla.uconn.edu/new/presmesg.html

    Hmmmm, seems like the state's best efforts at sabatoging this particular book's readership might be failing miserably, huh?

    AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS NEWS IS "SMALL POTOTOES" IN COMPARISON TO WHAT I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO REVEAL BY THIS WEEKEND!!!!!

    Stephanie Hochuli
    March 16, 2004 - 02:56 pm
    No small Potatoes. I know that people in Ct. will take a hard look at their penal system for women. I hope it helps the women who are still incarcerated.

    BaBi
    March 16, 2004 - 04:56 pm
    That is good news, Nancy. I hope the powers-that-be in Connecticut are paying attention! ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    March 16, 2004 - 05:40 pm
    BaBi,

    The "powers that be" are having absolute conniptions over the good things that continue happening for the women from CKITM, concerning their writing (again, just wait until I can finally tell you this week's news!!!).

    On one hand it's all really sad; but on the other hand, perhaps the womens' continuing success just goes to show that there's a much Higher Power (than those "that be" in CT's Dept. of Corrections) who's really running the show, huh?

    JoanK
    March 16, 2004 - 09:16 pm
    The powers that be deserve all the conniptions that they get, after what they tried to pull.

    Ginny
    March 17, 2004 - 06:01 am
    Whoop!!! Congratulations Nancy and Wally Lamb and All Authors on this fabulous honor for Couldn't Keep it to Myself! So well deserved! WHEEE! YAY!
    1,000 readers! What a fantastic thing I can hardly believe my eyes, what an exciting Read a Thon!!

    The book is unique, we knew that from the get-go, and I think it should win more prizes than it has, it's important and a seminal work, and I'm honored that we have been somehow, through Wally Lamb and Nancy's generosity and Dale and Nancy Whiteley, part of it.

    I feel part of "it," this entire movement, we on SeniorNet feel a part! And we're still seeking to advance the cause of reading in prisons in our own modest way, knocking on doors, books to prisons, as we speak, all we need is one door open, blessings on YOU Nancy, for providing those books to that teacher in prison and Wally for giving his permission to copy those stories, I love to see what others are doing, our turn is coming, we're in line waiting for the call.

    I am just THRILLED, congratulations, congratulations, CONGRATULATIONS!! and more to come you say!!

    How can anybody BREATHE!!!!

    WOW WOW WOW!

    THANK you for telling us, can't wait to see what's next! Not sure how that one can be topped!

    ginny

    Malryn (Mal)
    March 17, 2004 - 07:37 am
    Congratulations to you, NANCY, and all the authors of Couldn't Keep it to Myself and to editor and encourager, WALLY LAMB!

    Mal

    annafair
    March 17, 2004 - 08:07 am
    Congratulations...it is so good to read of good news...and this is GOOD NEWS..anna

    Hats
    March 17, 2004 - 08:12 am
    What wonderful news. Nancy, Thank you for sharing it.

    Ella Gibbons
    March 17, 2004 - 08:30 am
    I ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS TO WALLY LAMB AND ALL THE WOMEN WHO WROTE THEIR STORIES FOR BEING CHOSEN WITH THIS HONOR!!

    pedln
    March 17, 2004 - 08:44 am
    Congratulations Nancy, and kudos to you and Wally and Dale and all the women who contributed to the publication of CKITM. Your news is just super. And I do applaud the CT Library Association for its part in making others aware of this book. IN EVERY PUBLIC LIBRARY IN CT !! Wow.

    Never underestimate the power of a book.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 17, 2004 - 08:46 am
    Thanks for all your kind messages, which I will print out and send off to each of the still incarcerated women (have an envelope to each ready to go out today or maybe tomorrow), but please, PLEASE, PLEASE, check back in here on Friday (hopefully by then I can tell). I'm really not trying to be a tease, but I'm so excited I can hardly stand it. None-the-less, I am sworn to secrecy until after an "official announcement" is made, so stay tuned -- OK? OK!.

    GingerWright
    March 17, 2004 - 08:57 am
    Thanks for the report. Congradulations to All of You who had any thing to do with what has happened and is yet to happen. I am Very happy about All of it.
    Ginger

    BaBi
    March 17, 2004 - 11:05 am
    Is occurs to me we have a clash of two principles in this entire conflict.

    One is that no one should benefit from a crime from which others have suffered.

    The other is that the whole idea of imprisonment is payment of a debt to society, and if that debt has been paid, then it is PAID. Punishment should not go on, and on, and on!

    The BIG question now is: How to we reconcile these two equally reasonable and valid principles?

    Babi

    kiwi lady
    March 17, 2004 - 12:16 pm
    Congratulations to Wally and all the authors who contributed to the book. Every state Governor should be sent a copy so that they can see how this prison initiative has changed and healed lives. Oh the power of writing as a way of healing!

    JoanK
    March 17, 2004 - 01:50 pm
    GREAT, GREAT, GREAT!!! We all know that you are GREAT. Now everyone else knows it too!!!

    Ann Alden
    March 17, 2004 - 06:11 pm
    CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS BOOK. WHAT AN HONOR FOR THESE WONDERFUL AUTHORS AND THEIR MENTOR, WALLY LAMB!

    TO YOU ALSO, NANCY!

    Nancy, I did go and take a look at that library supported tape a book for the inmates of women's prison in Indiana and sure enough, they do make VCR tapes for their kids. What a great idea!

    Annie3
    March 18, 2004 - 12:43 pm
    This is a very important book and I am glad I read it and also that it is being recognized.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 18, 2004 - 08:30 pm
    I'm not sure what you mean by "benefiting from a crime." Do you refer to inmates in general generating incomes while incarcerated, or are you referring specifically to all the "hoopdy-do" the incarcerated contributors to CKITM continue encountering as the result of publishing?

    There are specific laws concerning inmates not profiting from their crimes IN ANY WAY, and nobody is contesting that the CKITM authors remained within the legal guidelines in this book; in other words they wrote their own personal stories, not stories about their crimes.

    One thing the law clearly defines is that even inmates maintain certain 1st amendment rights while incarcerated, one of which is freedom of expression through written words. Legally, inmates not only can write, but they can legally publish and profit from writing while incarcerated too. This is not really a negotiable principle; the law says it's OK to do so. Additionally, many inmates (other than writers) actually do continue earning viable incomes while incarcerated, although it's a given that most cannot and do not -- but legally, if they can, they may.

    I stumbled upon an interesting article the other day concerning an American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) stand on an inmate's publication from prison and allegations of punitive retribution on behalf of the Dept. of Corrections.

    The article is pretty long so after the link, I will cut and paste a handful of passages concerning ACLU commentaries that sound pretty familiar to me through my association w/the inmate writers at York CI.

    http://archive.aclu.org/court/mumia.html

    And here are the passages of interest (at least to me):

    A statement of the ACLU's views may be of aid to the Court in considering the Plaintiff's motion for preliminary injunction. The ACLU argues below that prohibiting financial compensation for the publication of Live From Death Row, and punishing Mr. Abu-Jamal with disciplinary segregation for receiving compensation, violates the First Amendment to the U. S. Constitution. This is so even in the absence of evidence that the policy or the punishment were retaliatory. If a retaliatory motive can be proven, the constitutional violation is simply compounded. Furthermore, although prison officials have some leeway in restricting contact with the media, uneven application of such a policy or a retaliatory motive render any consequential restrictions unconstitutional.

    I. THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ACQUIRE INFORMATION ABOUT PRISON LIFE PRECLUDES CORRECTIONS' OFFICIALS FROM RESTRICTING A PRISONER'S RIGHT TO PUBLISH BOOKS AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE MEDIA ABSENT A SUBSTANTIAL SECURITY INTEREST THAT IS CONTENT-NEUTRAL.

    The public typically knows very little about life behind prison walls. What happens behind those walls, however, is of vital public interest: [T]he conditions in the nation's prisons are a matter that is both newsworthy and of great public importance. As THE CHIEF JUSTICE has commented, we cannot "continue ... to brush under the rug the problems of those who are found guilty and subject to criminal sentence . . . . It is a melancholy truth that it has taken the tragic prison outbreaks of the past three years to focus widespread public attention on this problem." Burger, Our Options are Limited, 18 Vill. L. Rev. 165, 167 (1972).

    B. Restrictions on a Prisoner's Access to the Media Cannot Be Imposed Discriminatorily or Be Motivated by a Desire to Suppress the Contents of Inmate Communication Simply Because it Is Critical of Prison Officials.

    II. THE DOC'S POLICY OF PROHIBITING PRISONERS FROM RECEIVING PAYMENT FOR THE PUBLICATION OF BOOKS VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

    III. ANY DOC ACTIONS AGAINST MR. ABU-JAMAL THAT WERE TAKEN IN RETALIATION FOR THE PUBLICATION OF LIVE FROM DEATH ROW ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    First Amendment precludes [a prison official] from regulating, through the grant or denial of permission for prisoners to talk with reporters, the content of speech which reaches the news media, unless the restriction bears a substantial relationship to a significant governmental interest.

    IV. CONCLUSION Regardless whether Mr. Abu-Jamal can prove that DOC officials acted with the illicit purpose of retaliating against him for writing Live From Death Row or in an effort to suppress the criticism contained in the book, the DOC policy prohibiting financial remuneration for publishing a book is unconstitutional. If Mr. Abu-Jamal proves that DOC officials retaliated against him for publishing the book, or to suppress discussion of it, then the prohibition on media interviews also is unconstitutional.

    To be cont. -- next post

    Nancy Birkla
    March 18, 2004 - 08:49 pm
    Here's the part I found most interesting . . .

    I. THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ACQUIRE INFORMATION ABOUT PRISON LIFE PRECLUDES CORRECTIONS' OFFICIALS FROM RESTRICTING A PRISONER'S RIGHT TO PUBLISH BOOKS AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE MEDIA ABSENT A SUBSTANTIAL SECURITY INTEREST THAT IS CONTENT-NEUTRAL.

    The public typically knows very little about life behind prison walls. What happens behind those walls, however, is of vital public interest: [T]he conditions in the nation's prisons are a matter that is both newsworthy and of great public importance. As THE CHIEF JUSTICE has commented, we cannot "continue ... to brush under the rug the problems of those who are found guilty and subject to criminal sentence . . . . It is a melancholy truth that it has taken the tragic prison outbreaks of the past three years to focus widespread public attention on this problem." Burger, Our Options are Limited, 18 Vill. L. Rev. 165, 167 (1972).

    All of this is relevant to what I keep referring to as upcoming BIG news. Unfortunately, once again the CT Dept. of Corrections is working overtime creating barriers -- so now, something that was scheduled to be announced publicly today has had to be pushed back, because the prison has refused to allow notification other than through standard inmate mail, and rightly the person(s) involved have a right to be notified before going public with it, but please, please, stay tuned in -- because soon, I promise very soon, I will be able to share my exciting news (or if not, I'll surely burst).

    Diane Church
    March 18, 2004 - 09:18 pm
    Gosh, Nancy - I'm bursting right along with you! Wild horses couldn't keep me from watching for this news. Perhaps the more difficult the wait, the more productive and better the news will be when it ultimately breaks. Here's hoping.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 19, 2004 - 08:57 am
    By the way, I forgot to include (in the info concerning the civil suit of the inmate writer) that the inmate won; the judgement determined that the Pennsylvania DOC had indeed violated civil liberties of the inmate.

    Also, a little later down the line the inmate's death penelty conviction was overturned as well, although my understanding is that another conviction remained, just not the death penalty.

    With that said, I will re-iterate something I've tired to say over and over again -- I certainly am not an advocate of society being "easy" on criminals, and I especially don't disagree with harsh sentences concerning violent crimes. What I contest is the revengeful attitutudes, both within prison systems, as well as outside in society, that really end up causing contra-effective results. In other words, sentences are determined through the courts, and those are what the sentences should consist of -- the additional, and continuing revengeful behaviors that are AUXILIARY to said sentences actually create barriers to incarcerated individuals leaving prison in better shape than when they arrive.

    Honestly, if for no other reason than protecting their own families in the future, I'd think everyone should want to ensure prisoners coming out better than when going in.

    Hats
    March 19, 2004 - 09:08 am
    I think that is the whole point. We don't want to see the same crimes committed again. So, rehabilitation becomes very important and necessary. If we can't care about the person who commits the crime, then, we must, at least, have concern for the well being of our families and our neighbors. In the long run, rehabilitation can only be a great benefit to all.

    BaBi
    March 19, 2004 - 12:45 pm
    Thanks for that informative post, Nancy. It was a point that had puzzled me, that CKITM was NOT about the various crimes of the writers, so any income from this book should be exempt from the State's attempts to grab it.

    I can only assume the State is simply demanding a refund of what moneys they spent on a prisoner, and doesn't consider the source of the money legally relevant. That still seems to me to be an extension of 'punishment' beyond what was ordered by the court at the time of trial. Yet more and more States are adopting laws to do just that. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    March 20, 2004 - 09:30 am
    Just a quick update concerning the BIG news I've been telling about. I've heard from Wally who has explained the delay, but if all goes as planned, I will be able to post about it on Monday, 3/22.

    Trust me, I'll be checking and checking a particular website until it appears, and the minute I see it -- it'll be off to our good friends at SeniorNet!

    Ginny
    March 20, 2004 - 02:14 pm
    Nancy, we will be waiting with bated breath to hear the news, thank you for keeping us in mind and part of the loop!

    I've been thinking, Guys.

    There are a lot of grants out there available to volunteers (that's us) to promote education and literacy (that's us), volunteers who are affiliated with not for profit organizations, (that's SeniorNet) and to me all three of those things seem to indicate to me that our time has come. I have long wanted us to seek a grant. But until all of this came up I did not know of a good use for the money: BINGO!

    How can we place books in prisons? Will they want specific books? How can we advance the cause of reading and literacy in prisons and make a difference? Let's brainstorm, all it takes is one forward looking Warden and a willing prison librarian.

    IF we had money, what might we be able to do?

    Let's dream big, we have all the qualifications, we have the desire to help, all we need is to get organized, let's get organized, are you in?

    We'll need the talents of every one of you to formulate a plan!

    WHAT could we do with money to advance the cause of books and literacy (education) in prisons? Must we select a particular prison to help and how will we find that one? I work better when aiming at a goal, let's set some? Are you game?

    ginny

    Lou2
    March 21, 2004 - 08:09 am
    Back in my other life, at a grant writing workshop, they kept saying, while you will use the money to buy a van, your goal is not the van, but to enrich lives...

    So our goal would be???? what would happen to inmates if they had access to books? literacy would certainly be a worthy goal... but for those who already read... to educate??? enrich lives??? to entertain???

    Why do we read???

    Lou

    BaBi
    March 21, 2004 - 02:15 pm
    GINNY, I did not know grant money was so available to 'volunteers', but I would certainly think we and SN qualify.

    My question, based on the information we had earlier about all the provisions made for books, videos, etc. to keep prisoners occupied, is it books that are needed. From what we have learned from CKITM, opportunities to express their feelings and come to grips with their past is what has been most helpful in prison inmates.

    If inmates have access to computers, would not a program set up by SeniorNet to afford them the same type of opportunities to be heard be even more helpful. The program could have group leaders skilled in keeping the exchanges open and non-condemnatory. I'm sure we have people participating in SN who have backgrounds and training useful in helping people deal with traumatic and painful issues.

    And then, of course, we could also provide books and materials that would assist in the whole process.

    All of this, of course, would require someone with a lot of energy, organizational skill, and commitment to get it rolling. (Is that you, GINNY?)

    Anyway, these are my thoughts on reading Ginny's post. ...Babi

    Stephanie Hochuli
    March 21, 2004 - 02:32 pm
    Books sound fine and I will gladly get involved.. Computers , most especially ones that would allow internet access. No, I dont think so. Months ago we got a collect call that was from a prison. Somone we did not know, we did not accept the call, but I did find someone who had and they were playing money games.. Be wary of that. But books.. I know that in Orange County, Florida, they allow books and in fact there was a young guard, female who was setting up a library and working very hard on the sort of books that the inmates wanted. She had a teeny budget and since at that time, we were still in the used book business, I gave her a real break on books. Nice woman.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 22, 2004 - 06:33 am
    Hi All,

    I just wanted to check in quickly before I head off to work. I'm soooo hoping the press release concerning the BIG announcement I've been talking about will happen today. Rest assured, I'll be checking and checking, and the minute I see it, I'll post it!

    For Ginny and others who sent letters to be forwarded to the women at York, they are all on the way. I just got them off yesterday, because I wanted to include a note mentioning the not-yet-disclosed-news I've been yammering on about. Wally assured me on Sat. that the person(s) involved had already been notified, so I was able to send a big ol' party in an envelope (compete with sorry looking hand drawn balloon bouquets, confetti, and noisemakers), along with assurance that our friends at SeniorNet will be cyber-celebrating too!!!!

    This week I'll be meeting with some folks I've mentioned before in this forum. One is Gaye Holman, who is the Coordinator of the Prison Education Program for the KY Community College System. Ms. Holman networks w/folks all over the country, and they share resources. Considering KY no longer has any money at all in the state's budget designated for prison education, yet our state is still providing many educational services (GED prep, vocational, and various college degree programs), I believe Gaye will have much to say that might help here. I will ask her to either come into this discussion personally, or to send information and links to me for posting.

    Then a professor friend of mine has promised an essay relaying some things that not only her prison students have learned, but what she has learned through teaching inmates.

    And Robert, the guy from the served out prisoner panel, is finishing up some Q and A's for us too.

    About the idea concerning books and sending them to prisons -- I need a little more time to think and to knock heads with others about that one. There are pros and cons, but my knee-jerk reaction is that the books will not do much good without real people not only to motivate inmates to read, but in most cases to teach the inmates to read.

    Nationwide, around 70% of first time offenders read at a 3rd grade level or lower (Something like 40% cannot read at all) so the fact that most states are currently in the process of, or have already trimmed their budgets by cutting prison education (including GED prep) is of serious concern to me, and I'm sure would be of more concern to others, if they actually knew this is happening. I'm willing to bet most people in KY have no idea prison education has been fully cut from their state's budget!

    My personal experience includes never stepping foot into the prison's library while I was there. The fact of the matter is, without an education that included engaging instructors and lessons and assignments, no book in the world would have been able to reach out and grab even me.

    What I did care about was the Bible I got while in the county jail, from a prison ministry group, not because I cared that much about the word of God back in those days either, but because the book was inscribed with a hand-written message that read "God loves you just the way you are, and we do too." That book quickly became treasured by me, since it was mine, really mine, at a time when my only possessions consisted of my socks, my underwear, a pair of tennis shoes, and jail-issued toiletry set. That same bible is still priceless to me.

    So, if there were some way to figure out not so much what prisons need the books, but which prison facilities would allow the books to be given out personally, as gifts, I think then the books would have a better chance of not only being read, but of also being treasured through the simple humanity of the action.

    And concerning the idea of computers -- many prisons need computers and computer programs, but most do not allow Internet access. What we have to rememeber is that we are all so used to the NET, and cyber-technology, it's hard for us to think of even using a computer without the Net. Many prisons are in dire need of computers, even without Internet access.

    An example I know of, first-hand, is in KY prisons. There are a handful of computers in most facilities, but they are so old, so outdated, that current programs cannot be run on them. An English professor from the college where I work had fits recently when the college switched over from a DOS version of a writing tutor progam that he depended on, to a Windows version. Along with the switch came new program disks, and the old ones got discarded, so when newer computers (but still old by today's standards) were donated to a facility where he taught, the writing program could not be loaded onto them at all.

    Hey, I just glanced at the clock, and I really need to run for now! I hope to check back in later with the anticipated press release :0).

    NAB

    Ginny
    March 22, 2004 - 07:12 am

    Whoop!~! All right! This is exciting, TODAY an announcement, the letters have gone out, can't WAIT for the big news, how exciting! Thank you SO much Nancy, for all of that!

    On the GRANT this is perfect, just perfect, I am so excited, thank you ALL for your input, can't you SEE this is exactly what we need? We NEED to know what works, what's effective and what's not.

    It appears, Stephanie, that you had a forward thinking prison guard from Orange County/ Volunteer Librarian there when you had your bookstore, she was in the prison and she wanted books and as a volunteer was trying to set up a library. Can you find out if she's still there? Would you be willing to contact her? SHE is a person in the prisons and she wanted books, can we find out if she would like to be in on this?

    Since Nancy has talked about being IN person I will the minute this news is released, write and find out of there is ONE prison in SC which would like to also be involved since I AM in SC, and that might help. But OUR focus here needs to concern the online, we are an online site, if we can later on get more people INTO the prisons as teachers, that would be a thrilling offshoot of this initiative. I hope we can. We must start small and focus on what we can do here in the online.

    I like what Nancy has written: we NEED to hear frankly what might work and what might not, what's needed and appreciated and what's not:.

    LOU, you have taken a course in Grant Writing? SUPER!! See? See?? This is the type of thing, grass roots volunteer thing that is what makes the country run, it's very exciting, to me! OK, you ask what is it we want, what would we do with the money, that appears to be our first task: to identify and determine what use we'd put the money to, what would be most used and appreciated, and Nancy is going to be an invaluable asset here!

    She's thinking about what meant something to HER, that personal touch!

    I knew the minute that man walked up to us at the National Book Festival there was a reason. This may be it, let's focus on this?

    Let's start with what, as Lou asks, we want money for and could use the money for. Let's make a list. Maybe our own list will be impractical, maybe we'll look back on it and marvel at our own ineptitude, that's ok, we can get more ept as we go.

    We WILL need input from those who are on the inside or who routinely make that bridge, we need to know frankly what might work, and what won't. We need to know which prisons where want what? Do you think copies of Couldn't Keep it to Myself might interest the prisoners? I have a feeling it just might. But we would need funding to PUT these books in the different programs, we can personally inscribe them, let's brainstorm, there's no harm in thinking out loud, let's figure out what we might be able to do and find out IF there is a prison or more than one prison librarian who might WANT materials? This is simply GREAT!

    Babi, yes, there are grants for volunteers, I'll put in some sites shortly after SeniorNet looks at them, have sent one on which looks like US!

    Ok Lou, would you be willing to help, to steer us on here with procedure, I've sent you the url to the application in email this morning, can you lead on in our focus?

    Nancy is making some great points here, she would not have stepped into a library herself, that means…? we need contacts who can bridge the gap?

    OUR focus here is online, we need to blend the two, we need to get started with a plan, find librarians or people who can go in, and note Nancy mentions the antiquated computers as well and KY with now no funded higher education system for prisons, Gaye may well know what we can do, how we can help. I know we can, have known that since the beginning, AS an online site. I am very excited about the opportunity of hearing from Gaye Holman, who is the Coordinator of the Prison Education Program for the KY Community College System! I think she can tell us a lot! I met another wonderful potential speaker just last week and invited him in as well

    Now this is important? Nancy said,
    …So, if there were some way to figure out not so much what prisons need the books, but which prison facilities would allow the books to be given out personally, as gifts, I think then the books would have a better chance of not only being read, but of also being treasured through the simple humanity of the action…
    This is exactly what we need, this sort of information, let's work here amongst ourselves, throw out ideas, hear from guest speakers and see if we can find out who needs what and what we might be able to do that would be effective , and appreciated. I am very excited about this, it will be work but it's worth it? It seems like from what I have heard we need to focus on (once we get over (and we probably never will) the very exciting, incredible announcement today.

  • What could we do with a grant involving Books and Reading behind bars?
  • How can we get in touch with prisons or librarians who might want to participate or give us some idea what's needed?
  • Let's make a list of possibilities which might or might not work for every situation, and learn what would be meaningful and what would not.
  • Is there a particular type of book which would bring the prisoners into the library? Should we focus on having at least one of them in each prison we hope to be affiliated with? Wonder if publishers would want to donate?
  • Should we be looking at other types of things besides books?

    I realize this looks rough, but everything starts out rough, we started out rough here 8 years ago and we've done pretty well for ourselves, it's determination that makes the difference, and the desire to help. Let's do it!

    ginny
  • Lou2
    March 22, 2004 - 08:17 am
    .... OK... Let's look at this again... our mission, our goal is not to get books into a prison... that is our means to our goal... our goal is to.... what? Make an impact on the lives of intimates? How? to raise their self esteam? to help in their adjustment to life in prison? What would we like to accomplish for the intimates??? That's the goal... This is what the grant workshop said over and over... the goal is not a van, that's the physical way to accomplish the goal... and our goal would be what??? what would we like to do??? first have to have the philosophy....

    Does that help to understand what I'm trying to say???

    Lou

    Ginny
    March 22, 2004 - 08:26 am

    HO! HO! Yes I am so glad YOU are here! YES, we need to get up html pages on this, yes we do, we need an insert in the heading so we can focus, do we need another discussion appended on to this one?

    Am also rushing in here to say my friend Sandy called with the news that on the Today Show this morning was a man who had established a website where he listed (I assume he checks these out personally first) the needs of various teachers in various states, starting with one state in particular, and then he posts:
  • Mrs. Brown needs $300 in order to get paints for her room and people,

    He's a clearing house for teachers/ education and people will write in and say oh I can do that and they will and it's been so successful he's expanded it to more than one state and WE can do that sort of listing too, if you like, we've got the website, we have the determination, we can do that with prisons, yes we can, yes, we can be a clearing house and grant all in one, yes, love the input this morning, thank you Sandy!

    Lou, I must get up this Grant Stuff separate, THANK you! ALL RIGHT!!! GOALS I love goals, I could talk on goals all day! Lou said,


    ....
    Goals


    OK... Let's look at this again... our mission, our goal is not to get books into a prison... that is our means to our goal ... our goal is to.... what?
  • What is our GOAL?

  • Make an impact on the lives of intimates? How?
    --to raise their self esteem?
    --to help in their adjustment to life in prison?
  • What would we like to accomplish for the intimates??? That's the goal...

    This is what the grant workshop said over and over... the goal is not a van, that's the physical way to accomplish the goal... and our goal would be what??? what would we like to do??? first have to have the philosophy....
  • OK we need a goal! I love goals, what are we thinking we'd accomplish with books to prisons or being in contact, that's the ticket, our Lou!!

    I'll ask for help with a new discussion and heading html page while we think. Goal!!

    THANK you!

    ginny
  • BaBi
    March 22, 2004 - 12:28 pm
    STEPHANIE, your point about the hazards of computer linkage between prison inmates and citizens is well taken. I hadn't given that enough thought.

    Nancy's info. about the reading level of most first-time offenders was an eye-opener. Contributions to prison libraries should include some 'easy-reader' books at 3rd grade level and up, with some reading improvement materials. Improving reading skills alone would be a useful contribution and would improve chances of finding work after discharge. ..Babi

    Stephanie Hochuli
    March 22, 2004 - 01:10 pm
    I had heard about the statistics on reading and prisoner before and do wonder what good the books would do. Since there is a new head of prisons in Orange county, I have been told that he will not do anything to coddle( not my phrase) the prisoners. There are so many needs of prisoners that I hesitate to think that books would make a difference. I think we need to think more about this.

    Ginny
    March 22, 2004 - 01:31 pm
    Good points, Babi, we need to get up a list of them and thank you for that report, Stephanie, phooey on the "coddle!" drat, one door closes but another opens, let's brainstorm some more and take into account what Babi (I like the way you think, Babi) and Stephanie ( I like the way you think, too~!) just said, especially about needs of prisoners!

    On reading levels, now, remember now your daily newspaper is only at the 5th grade level, in the first place.

    There are all sorts of reading materials for adult interest on a primary level, and, I dunno, when I taught at OIC, the adult and "at risk" students, even those who read at the primary levels, were interested in reading some things.

    I have had also adult students in literacy programs like AWARE who wanted to learn to read the Bible, or who wanted to learn to read so they could read to their Grandchildren. We know that computer experience, even knowing how to work a computer or use a word processing program, would help people coming back into the community, let's do the due diligence, and find out what's wanted and keep our options open and brainstorm goals, my favorite thing on earth! hahaha Almost.

    You can't tell me that in this entire United States there is not ONE prison with ONE warden who wants to make it better for those who will be reentering society. Maybe we need to focus on a Halfway House or transition program? We need to find out what's WANTED and where, we need to figure out how we are going to measure the outcomes/impact of what we do.

    Lou, don't grants require an evaluation?

    We will need to know what we want to accomplish in order to figure out what we want to do and how we are going to evaluate it to see how successful it was.

    What are WE wanting to do? AND it needs to be measureable?

    Lou2
    March 22, 2004 - 04:56 pm
    Exactly, Ginny... first, what do we want to accomplish??? Then how we will accomplish it??? then, how do we know we have accomplished it???

    Goal(s) philosophy?

    Method(s) what would we do with the money?

    Evaluation how do we know we've accomplished what we set out to do?

    Anyway that's the way I was taught... I'm sure I'm not the only one here that's had experience with grants... I'm sure not trying to be any kind of authority... I hesitated to post, since I've only read through this whole experience... but I can still hear those words... It's not about the van(books!)...

    Lou

    Nancy Birkla
    March 22, 2004 - 07:08 pm
    Jeeze, I'm so sorry to hype something up and then have to keep saying "I still can't tell you!"

    At first a press release was to have been presented last week, and then it was supposed to be today -- well, I kept checking and checking all day, and once again, nothing.

    If I'd had any idea it would get dragged out like this, I wouldn't have said anything last week. For the record, I'm willing to bet the holdup has something to do with yet more dissatisfaction on behalf of the prison, concerning continuing inmate success (and the fact that the prison has been creating obstacles is not a hunch; it's a reality confirmed by more than one involved party).

    So, now I will just quietly continue waiting for the press release to become a reality, and when it finally happens, I'll make sure it gets posted.

    Sorry again for the broken promise :0( !

    Nancy Birkla
    March 22, 2004 - 07:21 pm
    I'll soon be meeting with KY's miracle worker of making things happen in prison education (and with no budgeted money to make it happen with). I have many questions to ask her, including those related to grants, books, etc. We're shooting for a meeting this Friday.

    Hairy
    March 22, 2004 - 07:23 pm
    My feeling is to forget the books, but get them reading first as Nancy said. How about a grant to pay for a reading teacher?

    anneofavonlea
    March 22, 2004 - 11:25 pm
    watched pots never boil, anyway a little suspense brightens our lives.

    Anneo

    Nancy Birkla
    March 23, 2004 - 07:33 am
    Well folks, after falling asleep last night with the question, "But what will the van be used for?" tumbling around in my head, I've now woken up with my head chock full of ideas!

    First of all I'd like to thank Lou2 for the input. Some of your posts have nailed my exact thoughts; I was just waiting a little while, so I wouldn't interupt the brainstorming process. But then your posts, with your challenging questions got me thinking, REALLY THINKING!

    Everybody has had good ideas, and everything everybody has said is right, in one way or another; we just need to hone in on the positive energy the ideas generate, and then begin thinking "outside the box" with the ones that seem to present limitations.

    For instance -- the fact that many inmates can't actually read (or at least not well enough for fluid comprehension of what they read), could present a significant barrier to certain types of programs that involve reading, but yet these are the exact inmates we want to reach, if the foundation of a program we create centers around books and reading. Obviously we can't all go in and teach inmates how to read first (and this becomes a more complicated dynamic when you take into consideration that more and more states are cutting the in-prison programs that do teach reading).

    So anyhow, many big questions begin surfacing, like "How do we accommodate and include so many who can't read?" From the "get go," we can ask such questions and then push them aside and worry about the answers later, OR we can work on eliminating such barriers as we go.

    Let's begin working out problems as we go, instead of throwing in the towel on books and reading being a focal point for this idea generating process. How can we make something possible when there seems no way? What can we do when all we have to work with is books, our ideas, our motivation, and LITTLE OR NO MONEY TO START WITH?

    I think the answer to Lou2's statement that the goal cannot be the van, but what the van will be used for is a good and valid one that we need to include right now, in the brainstorming of ideas.

    My answer would be: "The van" will be used to help provide inmates with a ONE-WAY ride away from the prison, when it's time for him/her to leave. Of course I'm using "the van" as a metaphore right now, but we (especially Wally, Dale and I) keep crying out that if anything is going to change after prison time is served, then inmates must come out in better shape than when they arrive; otherwise, that "van" will need to operate in reverse, as well as forward.

    I have so many ideas at this moment, that include "do-able" starting approaches. I actually have figured out in my head an entire plan not only for a local program concerning a prison reading program, but I'm willing to bet within a very short while, I could get the whole thing together just through people I already know!!!!!

    Of course I can't present an entire proposal in one post that I'm flying through writing before I head out for work, but maybe we're overlooking the obvious.

    The short version is, WHAT ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE PRISON BOOK CLUBS?

    What about those who cannot read, you ask? I believe most publishers would give permission to generate audio tapes, much like Dept. for the Blind and Dyslexic does w/text books. But who will facilitate? Well, isn't there already a program in place (rhetorical question, because we already know there is in Indiana) for parents to send audiotapes of stories read to their children,? And remember, many inmates already can read and write.

    Give me a little while, and I'll bet I can give a pretty detailed example of how this could work in my own neck of the woods, through a merging of efforts -- through SeniorNet, and KY's Community College Prison Education Program, through the voices of my colleages at the college, who beg to read textbooks onto tapes for my students w/disabilities (it's a great way for the professors to put in their required community service hours), through the University of Louisville's "America Reads" program, a program that usually has interns (and state money to pay them) readily available for projects or causes that involve reading.

    And here's the part that would integrate inmates with those "outside" (in society), which I personally believe is absolutely imperitive if integration after incarceration is likely to be successful: We could create reading guides with questions that the inmates could either write out or record orally onto audio tapes to be sent off through the mail to P.O. box addresses, maybe with one individually assigned book club "mentor" to one inmate book club "member."

    Then, after a few backs and forths between members and mentors (creating that personal relationship that is so important), some discussion between themselves, and then networking between the mentors, a (newsletter form) synopsis w/ answers to questions, connections made, etc. could then be sent to the inmates involved in a particualr discussion (we could promise anonymity on behalf of inmate comments, if so desired).

    I really, really believe some (maybe even many) prisons would "buy" this idea, and I believe we could try it out on a shoestring budget, although I already know of ways to get a small "budget string" (as we at the college refer to it) locally, if we can get a fairly firm plan worked out.

    AND -- here's perhaps a clincher; my college already owns 20 copies of CKITM that an instructor is taking into local prisons as textbooks for college English classes she's teaching this semester, and we've already attained permission (for she and I) to photocopy (and I'm pretty sure I can get permission to audiotape as well), for educational purposes, various portions of the book. Oh, and for the record, I promise this is not a matter of self-promotion, since I paid out of my own pocket for the books! And I'd be happy to purchase more books for this purpose, as well, since it's a particualr book that might get 'em taking a look within themselves for connections, rather than outwardly at society for blame.

    Heck, I might go running with this one with or without S/N (LOL).

    The jist of what I'm saying is that I'm agreeing with Lou2. If grant-writing is a feasable goal, it needs to come after not only generating a good plan, but probably after tweeking and quantifying all the elements of the plan through experimentation first. You start with an idea, let it grow REASONABLY, you implement something that's do-able, you revise what you need to, you do it again (and maybe again and again) until it begins working, and then you set the BIG PLAN or DREAM (grant money to expand) in motion.

    That's it for now, except for this challenge: Think BIG and "outside the box." What ideas do you have, along these lines or otherwise?

    Lou2
    March 23, 2004 - 08:12 am
    My answer would be: "The van" will be used to help provide inmates with a ONE-WAY ride away from the prison, when it's time for him/her to leave. Of course I'm using "the van" as a metaphore right now, but we (especially Wally, Dale and I) keep crying out that if anything is going to change after prison time is served, then inmates must come out in better shape than when they arrive; otherwise, that "van" will need to operate in reverse, as well as forward.


    Nancy, my heart is singing!!! You go girl!!!

    Lou

    Stephanie Hochuli
    March 23, 2004 - 12:05 pm
    Nancy. What a splendid idea.. I especially like the audio tapes since that is an easy way to begin to read. Many of the edited tapes make you want to read the whole book.. WE need a target area now. All 50 states simply wont do.

    GingerWright
    March 23, 2004 - 05:28 pm
    Nancy, ***** You are a five out of five star winner. I apprieciate the all the work and time you are putting into helping the prisoners.

    Ann Alden
    March 23, 2004 - 06:34 pm
    Most of the women's prisons seem to have chat rooms on their computers. I have found several. There are ways to interact via an extra email account, maybe yahoo.com or hotmail.com which isn't one's major email address. Its a good idea to keep the women learning.

    Learning to read can be done using a computer and a reading program but of course, personal contact is so important.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 23, 2004 - 07:56 pm
    Although I know of many such sites, and although some states do allow Internet connections in their prisons (like I'm sure Florida does), most do not. Over the past year and a half, I've written and received letters from individuals incarcerated in 18 different states and have yet to come upon a prison with computers and Internet accessible to inmates

    I became curious about these prison Internet Penpal sites when I saw some "posts" originating from KY prisons, where I know for sure no such access is available. I found out that many (although I'm sure not all) prison-related Internet sites are handled though snail mail and 3rd party "assistance." In other words, various webmasters earn some serious bucks, because various postings are facilitated after various fees are paid first.

    I'd be curious to learn of prisons where inmates accessing the Internet directly (and legitimately) is acceptable (as I know those prisons do exist), because we all know the impossible (cyber)magic that can be performed via the Internet!

    Nancy Birkla
    March 23, 2004 - 08:29 pm
    Today was a really tough day for me. With a heavy heart, and deep sadness, I had to tell a client I've worked with for over a year now (at job #2) that I must quit working with her. I've been spending as many hours in my car driving to and from, as I do actually working with the woman (because I live and work so far away from both the agency and from where she lives), and also the pay there is much lower than what I earn at the college, which up until now did not matter -- I've been lucky enough to do the work just because I loved doing it.

    But now, because of the situation with my husband, I need to take on more hours working where I can get paid for all the hours I'm currently working at the second job and that I'm also spending in my car, while not getting paid at all. We have to increase our income due to the upcoming medical bills, and also because John will probably be unable to fulfill a contract w/the school corporation he works for this upcoming summer (w/the chemo treatments being so new, and all).

    Anyhow (and this is where all of you come in), all day I felt the positive energy flow of new things to come, especially concerning my mission to help ensure better prison education and rehabilitation. It really helped to make a difficult day feel much, much easier for me!

    When I embrace life on life's terms, rather than thrashing against it, I know that (always) better things lie ahead. Still, it's often very painful letting go and then letting God run the show!

    Thanks for all the support both in this forum and out!

    GingerWright
    March 23, 2004 - 08:55 pm
    Your clickable was nothing like I thought it would be but I liked it so I say thanks.

    JoanK
    March 23, 2004 - 10:34 pm
    NANCY: thank you for your support. Your coming has been a real blessing for us.

    Ginny
    March 25, 2004 - 07:19 am
    Golly moses, what excitement, and if you're reading this and wondering what's happening, there is a whirlwind of activity happening behind the scenes, here, in connection with our GRANT FOCUS, just a whirlwind of excitement and hoping to get set up and in place today and organized, but first FIRST FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!! Nancy sends this incredible news, it's hard to even take IN, but look look!!!!
    SHRIEK!!!

    Nancy sends this BIG NEWS!!!!

    Can you believe it?

    REJOICE!!
    Can you BELIEVE what that man has done NOW??

    Inmate Wins Writing Award
    By DAVID PENCEK
    Norwich Bulletin



    When the book, "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies from Our Imprisoned Sisters," came out last year, the state of Connecticut went to work trying to collect money from current and former York Correctional Institute inmates whose stories were published.

    The state's efforts, which fell under the "Cost of Incarceration" laws, have helped one of the women win a national award.

    Barbara Parsons Lane, who wrote "Puzzles Pieces," won the 12th PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award that honors those who have fought, despite adversity, to safeguard the right to freedom of expression as it applies to the written word.

    Lane has been in the Niantic prison for women since 1996 on a conviction of manslaughter due to emotional duress. She killed her husband, Mark, who abused her. She was one of 10 prisoners who participated in the writing program led by author Wally Lamb and whose work appeared in the book.

    "She's a model prisoner within the group," Lamb said Monday. "She's a wonderful mentor for the women. She helps others type up drafts and offers good criticism and feedback. I just thought since I was not able to nominate the entire group, she was a really good representative."

    Lane is up for parole in December and could be released as early as May 2005.
    ,br>In April, Lane's son, Arthur, and one of her daughters, Andrea Graham, will accept the $25,000 prize at PEN's annual gala in New York City. This could either help with or add to the $339,505 the state is seeking from Lane, who is one of the longest-serving inmates in the group. Lane's case as well as those of the other writers and Harper Collins Publishers, which the state sued, is still pending.

    In a statement, Freedom to Write program director Larry Siems said, "In honoring Barbara Parsons Lane -- and by extension, all of the women who poured their lives and their hearts into 'Couldn't Keep It To Myself,' only to receive bills for the cost of their incarceration -- we are, of course, underscoring our concern over the state of Connecticut's actions."

    Lane is the first incarcerated person to win the award. Past winners included an Arizona drama teacher who resisted the school's district's censorship of a play selected for a student production and a Texas librarian who successfully turned back an attempt to remove books from circulation at the county public libraries.

    "I'm very proud of her," Graham said during a phone interview from her Georgia home. "At first I was nervous (about the book), but now I'm glad because of all the letters the women have gotten thanking them."

    The judges for the 2004 award included author Eve Ensler and syndicated columnist Stanley Crouch.

    dpencek@norwichbulletin.com

    Originally published Tuesday, March 23, 2004
    Oh my gosh EVE ENSLER again!! And of course the one and only Wally Lamb, aren't we proud of him and Barbara and EVE!

    That PEN Freedom to Write Award is a BIG BIG BIG thing!

    Check it out: Paul Newman Foundation PEN Freedom to Write Awards!

    WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

    Congratulations, Wally Lamb, Barbara Lane, Nancy Birkla,
    and as the Freedom to Write Program Director said, "In honoring Barbara Parsons Lane -- and by extension, all of the women who poured their lives and their hearts into 'Couldn't Keep It To Myself,'

    Marcie Schwarz
    March 25, 2004 - 07:41 am
    What fantastic news, Ginny and Nancy!! Congratulations to all involved in the project. It's an honor for SeniorNet to be associated with your good work. I'm proud of our members here who are planning ways to continue that good work and aid those in prison to better their lives and contribute to society.

    annafair
    March 25, 2004 - 07:52 am
    It is hard to write because I have tears in my eyes. Society has a long way to go to see the pain behind many of these women's lives and appreciate how far they have come to pay thier debt to society. HOORAY for all concerned ...CONGRATULATIONS...anna

    Hats
    March 25, 2004 - 07:59 am
    Great, Great News!! Congratulations to Wally Lamb and All!!!

    Malryn (Mal)
    March 25, 2004 - 08:08 am
    NANCY, this is stupendous news! I'm so proud of Barbara Lane and all of you writers and Wally Lamb for making this recognition possible. When you write to Barbara, please send her a big hug and lots of love from me.

    Mal

    ALF
    March 25, 2004 - 10:25 am
    Congratulations to everyone! In a collective effort you have all been instrumental in winning this award. We are all so proud of what you've accomplished ladies.

    kiwi lady
    March 25, 2004 - 11:13 am
    Congratulations to Barbara, Wally and everyone who contributed to the book! What a scoop!

    Carolyn

    GingerWright
    March 25, 2004 - 11:50 am
    Congradulations to all involed in All of this. I am so Very happy for all and am proud to know you thru the book and S/N. Glad also to see that something is being done about rehibalition our prisons. Thanks for what you are doing. it has been needed every since the first prison was ever built.
    Ginger

    Stephanie Hochuli
    March 25, 2004 - 12:17 pm
    Congratulations to all involved. To BArbara and the rest of the writers.. To Wally, who thought it up and then patiently put it together. To the recognition and possibly the state of Ct. looking at themselves in a mirror and recognizing greed.

    JoanK
    March 25, 2004 - 01:30 pm
    WOW WOW WAY TO GO BARBARA AND ALL OF YOU. IT IS AN HONOR TO KNOW YOU. Nancy, please give everyone a big hug from me, too (and give yourself one too)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BaBi
    March 25, 2004 - 02:14 pm
    NEWS WORTH WAITING FOR! CONGRATULATIONS TO BARBARA WALLY AND CKITM!!

    ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    March 26, 2004 - 06:19 am
    You folks are too much! I wish I could send the fireworks in the header out to the women at YCI. Thank you all, once again, for your amazing and continuing support!

    Yesterday morning I received a copy of the article just as I was ready to leave for work (already late), and coincidentally I'd just read an e-mail from Ginny concerning whether or not I still needed to hold the news secret.

    I didn't even have time to post the article before I headed out the door, so I forwarded the e-mail w/attached article to Ginny and joked about being sure she'd handle getting it posted and that if I knew her, she'd have the news half-way around the world before I could get to a computer later in the day. Well, I guess I was right, but fireworks? The fireworks were a surprise even to me!

    What can I say? We are all feeling so very excited and proud over this amazing (stunning, actually) news. E-mails have been flying back-and-forth between Wally's office, HarperCollins, other contributors, and one even came in from a former HarperCollins associate who now lives in Singapore!

    Because I already knew about the award before I sent packages of letters out to the incarcerated conributors, you'd better believe I sent a big ol' party in an envelope to Barbara, which included greetings and congratulatory wishes from our good friends at SeniorNet too.

    Since our book originally published, many things that might have happened did not, but many things that we never expected to happen have. I swear, one of our contributors winning this particular award is about as good as it gets for me. This fulfills the true mission and purpose of us writing and then publishing our stories in the first place. And it sends an ultimate message concerning first ammendment rights, which include the freedom to tell ones own story, even after other freedoms have been taken away.

    Most of us struggled with the decision whether to publish or not in the first place; but we thought that once we got past the squeamishness and discomfort concerning our own families and THEIR reactions, well . . . we expected that would be the worst of it, but we were wrong.

    I've been the most fortunate, being the only non-York affiliated member of this particular group, but I know well the extent of negative consequenses they've all endured as the result of working hard and trying to do something good -- trying to give back a gift to society, one that we all thought might perhaps prove that some of us really do "get it," and we really care about helping others to "get it" too.

    So now, at least for me, all the hard work (along with our sincere motives concerning our work) finally feels fully validated. I mean it when I say this feels more exciting to me than appearing on Oprah or even earning a fortune as the result of publishing. This has fullfilled my purpose for writing what I wrote and then exposing myself and my personal life to so many others through publishing it!

    Malryn (Mal)
    March 26, 2004 - 08:32 am
    We love you, NANCY, and are behind you, the other authors and WALLY LAMB all the way.

    Mal

    Ginny
    March 26, 2004 - 08:43 am

    And very proud to be a part of it, thank you Pat for that glorious new heading and for adding Nancy's photo with John, she was not pictured above, she is now.

    We are just so proud for you all, Nancy: we're proud right along with you, of you, about you, and to be associated with you!

    Thank you for taking your time to write the prisoners for us and to send on our letters, these are heady exciting and wonderful days, I don't want to miss out a moment of joy!

    Thank you for being here Nancy and sharing this WITH us, it's unreal, how exciting, how good of you!

    We have much to say about the organization of our grant effort, coming up next but let's REJOICE for a while, Ginger sent me this, she thinks we need to have it here, also!

    This is how we feel about you, Nancy, Wally Lamb, Barbara Lane and all the authors: Congratulations to you all! So well deserved!

    ginny

    BaBi
    March 26, 2004 - 12:00 pm
    Speaking of Oprah, NANCY, Why not pass this topic - the story and outcomes- to Oprah? From Wally Lamb and CKITM all the way through the State's actions and the awarding of the PEN Freedom to Write Award.

    I believe she would be very interested in this story. If she wanted to make it the theme of one of her shows, think of the millions of viewers who would hear it!

    Who would be the best person to contact Oprah with the story behind the latest PEN Freedom Award? Our SN president, perhaps? Nancy? Someone Nancy knows that might have contacts where they are needed? OPRAH! Let's do it!

    Diane Church
    March 26, 2004 - 12:17 pm
    Boy, talk about people getting all the lemons in life making lemonade from it! What incredible enthusiasm here and why not. Something really, really good may come of a bunch of incarcerated women, a dedicated writing instructor, and all the pieces starting to some together. And this does sound like a natural for Oprah.

    The ball is rolling - can't stop it now!

    Traude S
    March 26, 2004 - 12:48 pm
    Though only an occasional poster, I read each individual story in CKITM, slowly and carefully. The cumulative message of the book is overwhelming. I was moved by the honor bestowed on Barbara Lane, whom I congratulate with all my heart. All the incarcerated women who wrote about their experiences in Wally Lamb's book share in the glory.

    How would the (lamentably often incurious) general public know about the lives of these women EXCEPT for this book and eloquent spokeswomen like Nancy Birkla ?

    BaBi's suggestion above seems eminently reasonable to me. Oprah SHOULD indeed be advised of the book (if she wasn't already), of the Prison Initiative it spawned, and above all the honor to Barbara Lane. I believe that Oprah would WANT to know and could reach millions by virtue of her limitless PR resources. For her, even the incurious would pay attention...

    Nancy Birkla
    March 26, 2004 - 01:38 pm
    When I made the Oprah comment, I was only using it as an example of really exciting things that happen to people. My understanding is that she has known about our book all along.

    For a number of reasons, including sensitivity toward families of crime victims, the Son of Sam Statute that forbids any direct talk about the crimes (could be construed as profiting from the crimes), and also the pending lawsuit w/ the state of CT, it's all (understandably) a bit of a "can of worms," as they say.

    All the more reason for immense gratitude over all the folks who choose to read and hear our message elsewhere, and it doesn't matter if that happens on Oprah or through SeniorNet :0)!!!!

    pedln
    March 26, 2004 - 05:23 pm
    Wonderful wonderful news!!!

    Congratulations to Wally and Barbara and Nancy and to all who helped make this possible. You are all winners.

    Nancy Birkla
    March 27, 2004 - 08:29 am
    I thought this site I found concerning grant writing was interesting enough to post here, especially the narrative explaining the four major elements relevant to all grant proposals, and how individuals/organizations tend to gain or lose "points" in their efforts:

    http://pphsp.uis.edu/Grant%20Resources

    Stephanie Hochuli
    March 27, 2004 - 12:19 pm
    I think that the hook of the two awards would appeal to Oprah. She is always interested in stories that show the goodness and change in people.

    BaBi
    March 27, 2004 - 12:37 pm
    NANCY, I don't believe it would be necessary to talk about the crimes that were committed, in order to present this story on a show like Ophrah. What should be discussed is the benefits of prison programs such as brought Wally Lamb to these imprisoned; the difference it made for the women inmates both in prison and after release. It could discuss the issue of the State's attempt to seize money from former inmates for writing about things other than the crimes committed.

    In could tell people about the PEN Freedom to Write award, and the woman who just won that award. All this would make a great show. ...Babi

    Ginny
    March 27, 2004 - 04:05 pm
    I bet you a million dollars that Oprah Winfrey knows all about Wally Lamb and what he's done, after all, he's BEEN on her show twice already, you recall that both of his first books, She's Come Undone, and I Know This Much is True , were Oprah Book Club Picks, I have a feeling she knows! And it looks like everybody else is about to, too, check out the press release below.

    (But you know what? I agree with Diane, I love the enthusiasm here and the support! We're behind Wally Lamb and the Authors all the way, and have been, since Day 1!)

    Nancy, what a great site, thank you, we NEED that, we'll add it to our organization stuff which we're about to get started with, whilst we revel a bit more in this joyous exciting and teriffic news, we're studying the heading as we speak to figure out where we can insert the GRANT!!

    Here is a Press Release from the PEN Freedom Foundation. It appears it has come to their attention that something is not right?



    From the PEN American Center News:

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE




    Inmate Who Participated in Book Project, Received $330,000 Bill From State to Receive 2004 PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award



    New York, New York — PEN American Center has named Barbara Parsons Lane, one of eight incarcerated writers who were sued by the State of Connecticut after contributing to the acclaimed collection Couldn’t Keep It To Myself: Testimonies from our Imprisoned Sisters, as the recipient of this year’s prestigious PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award. Lane, a victim of domestic abuse incarcerated for killing her husband, remains in prison; her son and daughter will accept the $25,000 prize on her behalf at PEN’s annual Gala on April 20, 2004 at the Pierre Hotel in New York City.

    Couldn’t Keep It To Myself is a moving anthology of stories and essays by women who participated in a creative writing workshop at York Correctional Institution. Wally Lamb, author of the novels She’s Come Undone and I Know This Much Is True, has led the workshop for almost five years.

    In January of 2003, just days before Couldn’t Keep It To Myself was due to be released, the Connecticut Attorney General’s office began summoning the book’s contributors to appear before Superior Court. It was only then that the writers—both those still incarcerated and those who had served their sentences and been released—learned they were being billed, at the rate of approximately $117.00 per day, for the cost of their imprisonment. Because none of the women had written directly about their crimes, this was not a case of a state trying to apply so-called “Son of Sam” laws; rather, the Attorney General argued it was seeking the monies under Connecticut’s vaguely-worded and rarely-applied “Cost of Incarceration” laws on the theory that the state sponsored the writing workshop. The State of Connecticut also sued Harper Collins Publishers for having reserved royalties of approximately $5,600 for each of the women. As one of the longest-serving inmates in the group, Lane received a demand for $339,505.00.

    Barbara Parsons Lane entered York Correctional Institution in 1996. She joined Wally Lamb’s prison writing workshop shortly after its inception in 1999, stating that she wanted to write about her life to better understand it. She wrote prolifically and grew quickly as a writer, and in time became a mentor to other workshop participants as well, often helping them type and edit their manuscripts. Her growth within the writing program mirrored her progress as an inmate and a person: in addition to her writing activities, she became one of the leading trainers in York’s innovative program that conditions puppies for service to people with disabilities and helped found a hospice program within the prison for women with AIDS and other terminal diseases.

    Nearly a year after they were initiated, the State of Connecticut’s lawsuits against the women and Harper Collins are still pending. Last June, PEN wrote to the Connecticut Attorney General to protest the state’s effort to recover the women’s share of the book proceeds, noting that although the law presumably permits the state to attempt to recover the cost of incarceration from any inmate who earns any income whatsoever, it has been applied extremely selectively: of tens of thousands of men and women who have served terms in Connecticut since the law went into effect, only 15 have been the subject of cost-of-incarceration actions—7 who were targeted following significant financial windfalls, and 8 of the women whose writings appear in Couldn’t Keep It To Myself. “Because these eight women came to the attention of the state through their work,” PEN wrote at the time, “it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that they have been targeted for their work—or at least that, intentional or not, they are being penalized for exercising freedom of expression.”

    “In honoring Barbara Parsons Lane—and by extension, all of the women who poured their lives and their hearts into Couldn’t Keep It to Myself, only to receive bills for the cost of their incarceration—we are of course underscoring our concern over the State of Connecticut’s actions,” Freedom to Write Program Director Larry Siems said today in announcing the award. “But we are also honoring Ms. Lane and her colleagues in the York’s writing program for seizing the opportunity that writing presents to reflect on their lives and experiences. For more than 30 years, PEN has been encouraging prison writing programs as an essential part of the process of rehabilitation. Barbara Parsons Lane is an extraordinary example of how lives can be reconstructed in and through writing. We encourage the State of Connecticut to amend its Cost of Incarceration law in a way that encourages, rather than discourages, other men and women from exploring and sharing their stories.”

    Wally Lamb, who has worked with Barbara Parsons Lane for more than four years and who nominated her for the PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award, agreed. “Barbara Lane is living proof that Connecticut has the capacity to rehabilitate, as well as punish, its incarcerated citizens and return them to society as productive individuals with useful skills and greater self-awareness. I urge the Department of Correction to make correction its top priority. As Couldn't Keep It To Myself contributor Bonnie Foreshaw put it, ‘What I hope is that people will bear in mind that we are human beings first, inmates second.’”

    This is the twelfth anniversary of the PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award, which was established by actor Paul Newman and author A. E. Hotchner to honor a U.S. resident who has fought courageously, despite adversity, to safeguard the First Amendment right to freedom of expression as it applies to the written word. The judges for the 2004 award were acclaimed authors and PEN Trustees Eve Ensler and Grace Paley; Syndicated columnist, novelist, and essayist Stanley Crouch; Dave Horowitz, Executive Director, The Media Coalition; and Lucy Dalglish, Executive Director, The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.

    tutormentor
    March 28, 2004 - 10:19 am
    It is exciting to see the progress of this discussion over the past couple of months. I've read through the past month's messages this morning and see a movement toward organizing, raising money, and making a difference. The question, "what would we do with money" leads to what is the purpose of our work. I'd like to stimulate your thinking with a word picture.

    Imagine a time line that starts with birth and moves through infancy to adolescence to teen years toward adult-hood. Think of a box on that timeline that says "IN PRISON". This is where the focus of the discussion seems to be at this poing. What I'd like you to think of is the timeline beyond prison and before prison. What are the things you could learn, and the ways you could educate others, so that fewer young people were making choices that lead them to prison? On the other side, what are the things you could learn about how ex-offenders are leaving prisons and going back into neighborhoods without jobs and thus ending up in prison again after a short time?

    To really make a difference there needs to be more effort to keep kids from prison and more innovative ways to move ex-convicts into meaningful jobs and careers. For such programs to reach the millions of kids living in poverty who don't get an adequate education, and who have large numbers of ex-convicts as their primary role model, there needs to be a huge increase in public concern that leads to a greater flow of charity dollars and time into thousands of neighborhoods around the country.

    As challenging as this is, it's probably even more challenging to innovate ways to mainstream ex-convicts into jobs and careers. Not only do most not have the skills, but all have a stigma, that makes it difficult for potential employeers to give them responsible jobs. What are the examples of organizations who have overcome this? How can such examples be duplicated in all parts of the country so that ex-convicts have reasons not to return to the habits that got t hem in Jail inthe first place?

    An organization dedicated to such goals would have much value and could find many ways to spend money it might raise. However, it would have even greater value if the result was that thousands, or millions, of adults, faith groups and businesses would become contributors to organizaitions helping kids stay out of jail, and organizations helping them move from jail to careers.

    Daniel F. Bassill President Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection www.tutormentorexchange.net www.tutormentorconference.bigstep.com

    BaBi
    March 28, 2004 - 01:10 pm
    Two very thought provoking posts. I'm delighted the PEN awared people spoke out on this subject. And Mr. Bassill has expanded the field of possible action.

    It's all becoming somewhat overwhelming. I need to take this in smaller bites, I think. ):> ) ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    March 28, 2004 - 03:25 pm
    A colleague of mine from my workplace, who is familiar w/ various prison education-related issues, has offered (what I believe is) an excellent suggestion concerning SeniorNet's collection of books that are up for donation.

    Could some of them possibly be donated to county jails, rather than prisons (which already have libraries in place). My friend reminded me that more and more county jails are being used as long-term holding facilities for individuals who are headed to prison, but due to over-crowding, they get "stuck" in county jails for longer periods of time than intended. Also, county jails house prisoners who sometimes have sentences of a year or more, but who will not move on to state or Federal prisons at all.

    County jails usually cannot even facilitate brief recreational visits outdoors. As a rule, they have no educational outlets, no more than a handful of jobs available for the more long-term prisoners, and the jails usually have few activities for inmates to participate in during the time they spend there.

    I'm assured that many jails would love to have books available, so their inmates might be able to read, rather than spending all their time watching TV or otherwise mindlessly blowing time.

    Back in 1990, I spent several weeks in Ky's Jefferson County Jail, while awaiting an available space for me at the state's prison for women. It was the worst punishment I can imagine, short of physical abuse or more barbaric forms of torture. It was horrible, locked up for most of the day in a cell with 3 other inmates (a cell intended for only 2, so the other 2 of us were on 1" thick floor mats). One of our cellmate's was obviously mentally unstable and I was scared to death of another. Our cell had a toilet at one far end its approx. 9' X 12' space, that faced the barred gate at the front of the cell. The toilet had no wall, curtain, or other means of privacy provided around it. There was no place to exercise; there were no visits outdoors, no windows, no clocks, no books, no nothing.

    Oh what I would have given to have been able to get my hands on a good book (of course then who knows, I may not have even taken to journaling to pass my time, huh?).

    I recall my only peaceful moment in that county jail coming (most unexpectedly) in the middle of one night, as all my cellmates slept, and I was able to quietly listen to the sounds of a storm through an overhead window (which was painted over w/black film of course; God forbid letting jailed folks get a glimpse of the sunlight, huh?).

    Anyhow, I vividly recall the calming effect I felt from being able to hear a single sound from "the outside." The one sound that made it into the jail with me, came in the form of rain beating on the window overhead from my cell, and it helped (immensely) to break the obsessive hold the mindless nothingness was having on me.

    Yep, I definately think county jails should be considered as a donation source for some books -- and who knows, maybe an inmate headed to prison, who reads a book while waiting in jail, might even visit a prison library in the long run!

    Nancy Birkla
    March 28, 2004 - 04:38 pm
    I just looked up a story featured on the 6:00 news, and I'll say it once again -- the never-ending quest for punitive revenge, targeting formerly incarcerated individuals who are doing well post-prison, and who are no longer participating in any criminal activity -- well, it absolutely befuddles me.

    Check this one out . . . Reportedly, the state of California has spent close to two million dollars (over the past year), in an attempt to re-incarcerate a women who has nicely re-situated in life. Seems a mistake was made, and she was released 65 days earlier than she should have been; so now, whatever it might cost the state to do so, apparantly she MUST go back to prison to serve the missed time, and in addition to the taxpayers' dollars lost over this crazy witch hunt, the woman involved may lose her job, her home, and most sadly of all (no doubt) her recently recuscitated spirit:

    http://ga1.org/campaign/pam_martinez

    I just don't get it, and I sincerely hope I never do!

    BaBi
    March 29, 2004 - 08:38 am
    Unbelievable! What, exactly, was this DA trying to prove? The guy needs a reality check.

    The suggestion about sending books to a county jail sounds good, Nancy. (I found your description of such jails sickening. My nephew spent some time in just such a 'holdover' situation.) I'm going to follow up on this and see if, and what kind of, books would be acceptable to the county authorities here.

    I appreciate your hard work and commitment here, Nancy. Thanks, ...Babi

    Ginny
    March 30, 2004 - 06:43 am

    OK this is simply great, horrifying article, Nancy on the 62 days, this whole subject apparently is a roller coaster ride, from the heights of joy to the depths of despair, and every time you turn another corner you get hit with some total miscarriage of justice, which is ironic when you consider that we're supposedly DEALING with justice.

    Thank you also Nancy for that outstanding suggestion on book donation, and that incredible link on Grant Writing, ok here's where we are so far:

  • 1. We're getting up and will be debuting probably today a separate PEI Grant Initiative discussion which will be adjunct to this one.

    Pat is working on that heading, now.

    What we'll DO is organize ourselves here into areas where we might most want to serve,

    We have Lou who took the class in Grant Writing, Lou we want you to spearhead our focus and keep us ON focus, and anybody here who has written or assisted in grants (I know we have some on SeniorNet) will be on Lou's "team" here and they will advise us.

    Then we have Nancy who is PERFECT in this role of liaison and experience, she will be invaluable in our refining what WILL work, and then we'll need tons of people just tons, to help us figure out our Goals, our Objectives and this pesky EVALUATION business, for heaven's sake, which seems to be a big part of it.

    THEN we will need an Advisory Group who will assist us in trying to formulate these various objectives because apparently without them you're TOAST, you need not apply at all, and according to what Nancy just posted in that grant link which we need in the heading of our new discussion, Pat : http://pphsp.uis.edu/Grant%20Resources

    It's a very tricky business, apparently, but we can do it.

    THEN we need some of us to be "Researchers," that is fan out on the internet and research, once we get our Goals and Objectives and what we want to Evaluate, what Grants are out there we MAY qualify for. And THESE people will have to do a lot of looking on the Internet and bringing here to US so we can all look, examples of the grants available.

    So it's a giant huge job, we're all flying blind, can we do it?

    We can with your help. We can TRY with your help, and you know what? TRYING to do something counts just as much as the finished product, but we will not fail? I have known from the minute that man walked up to us that there was a greater purpose in his walking up, we are going to do this: it may be hard, it will be difficult, we ARE flying blind, but we WILL do this? Yes, we will.

    Now as I said we seem to be aligning ourselves in various helpful groups here, and we can shift in and out as our desires dictate or we think we might help in other areas, our first goal as Joan K and Babi said earlier, is to focus.

    To assist us in focusing I've asked our Jane DeNeve, who is a master at presenting organized information, to help us outline visually what you all submit so we can see it in a more…organized form, and she has agreed (I can't seem to get the Goals straight from the Objectives) much less the Evaluation, I'm hung up here for some reason, we must get this presented visually so we can focus, we are now talking about several different things but that EVALUATION buzzard is still hovering.

    SO let's focus on several things at once, let's get up a list of
  • Needs we might be able to fill
  • What MIGHT work (Nancy will know)
  • What Goals, Objectives and Evaluation we might think we can do, this WILL be tough? But you can do it.

    Let's show a use of the internet that's never been done on SN or anywhere else that I know of, and let's do this thing!

    Ok is THIS helpful? This comes from Nancy's link above, Lou, is this helpful? Jane can you post anything here that helps us focus?

    For first-time grant writers, some hints and tricks that may help as you write this grant. Goals are the umbrella statements of the program direction and one should look for the goal statement you will use within the goals of the grant. Objectives outline the specific tasks to be done in order to achieve the goal(s) you have defined. An objective has only four parts, organized into a measurable statement. You will be writing two types of objectives - process (describes the implementation of the elements of the program) and outcome (describes how your target population will look after receiving your program.

    Process objectives normally answer the questions What? Who? How Much/Many? and When? Using these four elements is the easiest way to create measurable objectives. Outcome objectives normally answer the questions of Behavior/Attitude, Population, Percentage Change, and When? These should refer back to the needs assessment data you collect. With this grant application, your needs assessment is focused on technology and the chart to complete is included with the application. Adding additional needs for education is something your team will determine together.

    Determining the tasks of the team members will assist you in both writing and meeting the goal of the grant. This is not a portion you will include in the grant narrative itself; but is a tool to help all members of the team manage the grant well together.

    The evaluation plan is the part of the grant where most people lose points. The evaluation will determine how well your project achieved its objectives and it will need to demonstrate two things: first, (evaluation of program implementation) that you did everything you said you were going to do, and second, measure of program impact) that you reduced the need you identified at the start of your proposal. Your team may wish to create a timeline of implementation for yourselves that looks at when you plan to initiate the objectives and the time needed. How will you determine that these objectives have been reached? Do you want to define the implementation as tasks with dates? Create a participant feedback instrument? These are questions your team may wish to answer for themselves. Once this information is determined, a simple evaluation narrative can be written for the grant proposal.

    Important areas: program objectives are measurable; the evaluation plan us detailed, including the measure of process and outcome; a plan for monitoring the accuracy and completeness of program implementation is included in your plan; the evaluation methods are appropriate to the proposed project; an outside evaluator can be named in the application; and the budget reflects expenditures related to the evaluation costs. My hope is that this information is helpful in writing the proposal for this grant. Please know that you can keep this application simple.



    ginny
  • Lou2
    March 30, 2004 - 07:23 am
    Please know that you can keep this application simple.


    ...other than that, what kind of day did you have, Mr. Custer!!! LOL Who, Boy, this is not an easy process, is it???? The guidelines you list above are right on target with what I was told... Yes, I think you are right, Ginny.... we can do this, but even as I set here looking at your post, the ole' brain is beginning to ache!!! We will not panic... we will take this one step at a time... and we will be successful!!!

    Lou

    Ginny
    March 30, 2004 - 08:22 am
    That's the spirit, Lou! A man's reach should exceed his grasp, after all!

    I like your spirit!

    BaBi
    March 30, 2004 - 01:51 pm
    GOALS: We've mentioned two possibilities so far that would appear to be attainable.

    A. Furnishing books where they are needed.

    B. Providing an on-line 'group therapy' forum, which primarily allows inmates contact with the outside and people who are interested in their progress.

    (Nothing new, just specifying two possible goals) ...Babi

    Ginny
    March 30, 2004 - 02:22 pm
    Oh I like those, Babi, and we've got some late breaking news of a possible donor of books but I'm going to wait (it's nice to be a clearing house huh) till we get our new discussion open so we don't have to copy over so many posts, thank you for that.

    I like this, we are going to have to open an area, I'll alert Pat where we can store all our SUGGESTIONS!!!! THE most important thing and I did not leave room, back to the DRAWING BOARD! hahahaha

    Taking them to the workshop now!

    Lou2
    March 30, 2004 - 04:14 pm
    ...better prepared to be productive citizens upon their release.


    That phrase just came to me and I wanted to get it in a place I won't loose it!!! That's not here, believe me!!

    Lou

    BaBi
    March 31, 2004 - 09:37 am
    Good phrase, LOU2! To quote you:

    ...better prepared to be productive citizens upon their release.

    I guess you could say that is the ultimate goal of any programs we might launch. And certainly one that I think most any sane citizen would like to see. ...Babi

    Ginny
    March 31, 2004 - 10:55 am
    I love that, too and we'll move it over to our new area....TA DA!! Our new Grant Area where we will work on our new Grant Initiative, as you can see in the heading there THAT discussion (which occurs right under this one in the Books line up) has in the heading some of our organizational groups and who we consider leading them and then (hahah Poor Nancy got co opted there!) we hope everybody will find a place he feels he can make a contribution there is MUCH to do, we're about to get serious here, we do have news of a possible donor and we have to get ourselves organized for THAT thrust!

    So come on over there and tell us which area you'd like to help with (they're in the heading) and take a look at the Goals thing and see if it makes any sense, I have a ton of organizational stuff to put up.

    And news for THIS discussion as well!

    back anon...

    Nancy Birkla
    April 2, 2004 - 05:06 am
    I received the following (via e-mail) from a friend who has been quietly reading through posts in this discussion. This friend has now opened up to me concerning her interest in prison education issues and also her personal situation that motivates that interest.

    She doesn't feel comfortable discussing things in this open forum (yet, although I'm encouraging her to), but I have gained permission to post one of her e-mails to me, providing I protect her anonymity by changing her name and also by not disclosing the name of an agency she wrote about:

    Nancy:

    I was reading the annual progress report 2003 for ****************. I am assuming you and John got one or will soon get one. Anyway, I was reading on page 5 New Programs Developed "Fathers and Families". I also read with interest on page 9, under Employment Services, "Fathers and Family." It reads: “For FY 2003, 156 offenders at the Branchville Correctional facility in Perry County and the Pendleton Juvenile Correctional Facility in Madison County were served by the Fathers and Families program. The program is designed to teach offenders valuable parenting skills as well as employment training vital to obtaining jobs upon release.”

    I was encouraged when I read that. However, I got a real tight knot in my chest when I read the following paragraph: “************* ceased to provide the Fathers and Families program in October 2003, due to a cut in State program funding.”

    "Nancy, what can I say, other than I feel in my soul that there are those in prison who would greatly benefit from getting a real education, even that beyond earning a GED. Granted, there are those people in prison who don't care and I won't continue with this thought. However, for those who sincerely want to change their lives and need the hope and the encouragement and guidance to continue - or to even look in that direction, then I am truly interested in participating in some fashion or another in helping them achieve that goal.

    Quite honestly, I am not interested in what crime or offense landed them in prison. I am interested in helping them to get focused and stay focused on their future outside of prison and how they can support themselves and have a fulfilling life."

    Nancy, I hope to hear from you.

    “Jane”

    Since this particular e-mail arrived, I've gotten several subsequent, more lengthy ones from the same individual. This helps me to feel hopeful that for all the participants who are posting in this discussion, there must be others who are not posting, but who are interested none-the-less (and then discussing elsewhere).

    I've also had several e-mails going back and forth from colleagues involved with the prison education program at the college where I work. Honestly I've been so overwhelmingly busy at work, I'm struggling to keep my nose above water this week, but eventually I'll get back with everyone about everything. To sum things up, though, they too are excited about some ideas I've told them about concerning things we've tossed around in this discussion!

    Ginny
    April 2, 2004 - 07:12 pm
    That is lovely Nancy, thank you so much for that and hello "Jane," we would love to have you here, I'm so pleased and excited about all that these two discussions have caused to happen even in such a short time, it's very satisfying; I've come in to say tho that I'm out of town with a laptop which won't work sitting in a cold hotel lobby here at night with the meter running, but we're discussing this initiatve as we speak and hopefully I can rejoin you Sunday, I believe I see some of the problems which also confront our grant, I have some new ideas, so excited to see things continuing here, thank you Nancy, and Babi and Lou in the Grant discussion and ALL of you here for your wonderful spirit, this is definitely going to accomplish more than we had ever hoped, stay tuned, I'll see you late Sunday.

    ginny

    Ginny
    April 6, 2004 - 02:14 pm
    We've got incredibly exciting good news and bad news, and they just about cancel each other out, but you'll be quite proud to be associated with this initiative in a very short while, if you're not already, stay tuned, big news on the way!

    wheeee

    Ginny
    April 10, 2004 - 10:10 am
    As I told you there is bad news, but I didn't expect this, herewith the first of three articles:



    Prison suspends writing program

    Wally Lamb's class produced acclaimed book and controversy.

    By DAVID PENCEK and FRANCIS McCABE

    Norwich Bulletin





    EAST LYME -- The York Correctional Institution has suspended an acclaimed writing program taught by author Wally Lamb.

    The program led to the creation of an award-winning book of stories from inmates, one of whom won the prestigious PEN award for her contribution.

    Brian Garnett, York's director of external affairs, said the program has been put on hold temporarily while staff is being reassigned. "We hope to proceed with the program in the very near future," Garnett said. "It's something we're very proud of and is extremely beneficial and innovative. We're very grateful to have Wally Lamb participating."

    Garnett would not comment further on the reasons for the suspension or to explain how staff reassignments impact the program.

    For his part, Lamb said he didn't know why the program had been suspended. "I was never told directly," he said.

    Lamb was hesitant to comment on the issue, saying "negotiations" were ongoing. He would not say with whom he was negotiating, only that it involved "the future" of the program. Lamb said he will continue negotiations next week.

    At least one session of the program, on April 1, was canceled, Lamb said. He could not say when the next session would take place.

    The best-selling author began teaching at the Niantic prison in 1999. Last year, "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters" was published. It included the autobiographical writings of 10 current or former inmates.

    The state billed the women for their imprisonment after the book was published under the "Cost of Incarceration" laws on the theory that the state sponsored the writing workshop. The state also sued Harper Collins Publishers for having reserved royalties for each woman. The cases are still pending.

    One of the contributing writers, Barbara Parsons Lane, won the $25,000 PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award that honors those who have fought, despite adversity, to safeguard the right to freedom of expression as it applies to the written word. Lane was convicted of man-slaughter due to emotional duress and has been serving time since 1996.

    dpencek@norwichbulletin.com
    fjmccabe@norwich.gannett.com


    Originally published Saturday, April 10, 2004

    Ginny
    April 10, 2004 - 10:13 am


    York Prison Halts Writing Workshop For Inmates

    Program Suspended After Inmate Wins Major Award By ALLISON FRANK
    Day Staff Writer, East Lyme/Salem
    Published on 4/10/2004

    East Lyme — A few weeks after an inmate at the Janet S. York Correctional Institution won a prestigious writing award, the state Department of Correction has temporarily suspended the workshop responsible for the woman's success.

    Sources who work at the prison said the directive came from York's principal of education, Dorothea Greene. The sources, who requested anonymity for fear of losing their jobs, said Greene issued a memo prohibiting inmates from using classroom computers to write, and later confiscated the computer disks that contained their writing.

    Greene could not be reached to comment Friday.

    Department of Correction spokesman Brian Garnett said Friday that the writing program, led by best-selling author Wally Lamb, is on hold pending the reassignment of staff. The program's suspension comes on the heels of the announcement that inmate Barbara Parsons Lane is this year's recipient of the Pen/Newman's Own First Amendment Award, a $25,000 prize. Lane, a victim of domestic abuse, has been incarcerated since 1996 for killing her husband. She is one of 10 inmates at York who contributed to a collection of stories and essays published last year in the anthology “Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters.” Garnett said the department is “immensely proud” of Lane and the other inmates who contributed to the anthology, and intends to reinstate the workshop “in the very near future.” “This is a program that offers a sense of introspection and self-examination, and rehabilitation,” he said. “We are proud of the accomplishments of the women, and of the woman who has won the award.”

    Lamb, author of “She's Come Undone” and “I Know This Much Is True,” said Friday that he was told two weeks ago that the prison was putting his workshop on hiatus but that he doesn't know what sparked the decision.

    “I am honestly not sure why they have suspended the program,” said Lamb, who has volunteered as a teacher at York since 1999 and who collaborates on the workshop with Dale Griffith, a teacher at York. “I'm hoping that the program can continue in its highly successful format with the people who have made it successful,” he said.

    Griffith, reached at home Friday, referred questions to the department's public information office.

    Garnett would not discuss the details of the staffing arrangement other than to say, “We fully hope that Mr. Lamb continues to head” the program.

    Lamb said he “absolutely” wants to stay on board at York. He came to the prison five years ago as a favor to a friend who worked at the prison, and developed the visit into a program that has helped rehabilitate women whose crimes include manslaughter and murder.

    Many of the women in Lamb's workshop express their feelings about the crimes that led to their imprisonment, of struggles with drug use or eating disorders, and of the abuses they experienced at the hands of others.

    “They are, by writing, acquiring self-knowledge and self-understanding,” Lamb said. “I'm very proud of the students who have graduated from the program.”

    While the program has earned accolades for its therapeutic value, it also has come under fire from the state attorney general's office, which invoked a 1997 state statute that allows the state to recover from inmates the cost it incurred in incarcerating them. Harper Collins, which published the anthology, had reserved royalties of approximately $5,600 for each of the women. The state last year sued Harper Collins and eight of the inmates who contributed to the anthology, including Lane, who had received a bill from the state for $339,505, according to the Pen American Center. The cases are still pending.

    After hearing that prison officials were re-evaluating Lamb's program, Pen sent a letter of inquiry to the attorney general's office, said Larry Siems, director of the center's Freedom to Write and other programs. Siems said the organization, an advocate for programs such as Lamb's, hopes the York workshop is allowed to continue in its present form.

    “It's a remarkable program and its achievements are obvious to everyone,” he said. “This award was part of the highlight of an extraordinary program.”

    Lamb said he's pleased his students' work is being acknowledged outside of the prison walls. “This is a victory for all of the writers in the group and for all those who have been published in the volume,” said Lamb, who nominated Lane for the award. “Freedom of speech is a cherished American right, and it should be celebrated.”

    Ginny
    April 10, 2004 - 10:15 am


    Prisoner's Prize Intended As Protest Writer To Receive $25,000 Award As Challenge To Law That Allows Seizure Of Inmate's Assets

    April 10, 2004 By DWIGHT F. BLINT, Courant Staff Writer

    Barbara Parson Lane wasn't going to collect a lot of money for her contribution to best-selling author Wally Lamb's collection of stories - maybe a few thousand dollars.

    But now the PEN American Center is looking to give her a $25,000 award - and this time, they hope the state won't be able to take it away from her.

    After the book was published in 2003, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal used a state law to seize the royalties earned by Lane and all the other women inmates who contributed to "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies from our Imprisoned Sisters."

    Officials at PEN are giving Lane the award to protest the law. They said that the law amounts to censorship because it is punitive and used selectively.

    "It's not like they're getting $5 million or even $500,000," said Larry Siems, director of PEN's Freedom to Write and International programs. "This is not a case of someone getting rich at taxpayer expense."

    State officials could not be reached to say whether they would seek to seize the prize money.

    Lane, serving a 10-year sentence for first-degree manslaughter, and seven of her peers contributed to the anthology of stories and essays under the guidance of Lamb, who teaches a writing workshop class at the prison. Lamb could not be reached for comment.

    In January of last year, just before the release of the book, Blumenthal began court proceedings to seize the women's earnings. The state is seeking about $117 per day of incarceration from each of the women. Each who has been released from prison has received roughly $5,600 in royalties from Harper Collins, which published the book.

    The state's suit against Lane seeks $339,505 - the amount in housing costs she had accrued at the time the suit was filed.

    Siems said Lane and her fellow inmates made remarkable efforts to get their stories out. He said the women should be rewarded for the introspection and personal growth they showed in their writing, not presented with an enormous bill as punishment for their success.

    "It seems counterproductive," said Siems, adding that the women did not write about their crimes.

    Prison officials say that they and Blumenthal have little control over how the cost of incarceration legislation is applied.

    If prison officials learn through monitoring mail, telephone calls or the media that an inmate has assets, then the state is obligated to pursue those assets, said Brian Garnett, director of communications for the Department of Correction.

    However, Garnett said prison officials are proud of Lamb's innovative program, which is temporarily on hold "pending the reassignment of staff."

    "This program provides introspection and self-examination to the inmates with real rehabilitative benefits," said Garnett.

    "We're proud that they have participated and proud of their accomplishments."

    The PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award, which Lane is to receive, was established by actor Paul Newman and author A.E. Hotchner to honor a resident of the United States who has fought to safeguard the First Amendment right to freedom of expression in writing.

    The award is being presented on April 20 at the Pierre Hotel in New York City. Lane's son and daughter, who will be accepting the award on her behalf, could not be reached for comment

    Malryn (Mal)
    April 10, 2004 - 10:46 am
    Well, I'm crushed about the idea that Wally Lamb's writing program at Niantic is being stopped. I can imagine a lot of reasons why, but I see more reasons why something like this should be continued to help inmates understand why they're in prison and how they got there, so they won't make the same mistakes when they are released.

    I just don't know what to say.

    Mal

    kiwi lady
    April 10, 2004 - 12:05 pm
    Sounds to me like the writers are being punished for their participation in the book and probably the fact that the general public is now looking closer as to how prisons operate etc. Well you guys over there could be armchair activists and bombard the Congressman for that State with protest letters. Tell all your friends. Write to the press. Adverse medial publicity should do some good.

    Carolyn

    Lou2
    April 10, 2004 - 01:12 pm
    There's a fellow in our community who loves to offer people challenges... and it would seem that those who believe that inmates can and have better their living through writing have been given a real challenge. How can this obstacle be made a stepping stone? How can it serve to increase programs that ready inmates to a leave prison ready to assume a productive life?

    Lou

    Nancy Birkla
    April 10, 2004 - 01:59 pm
    I'll comment further soon, but for the time being I'm personally tapping into my belief that sometimes God's greatest gifts come disguised as something else.

    I woke up today feeling (from the top of my head, to the tips of my toes) that "the powers that be," in the state of CT, are about to be dealt with by a much Greater Power and then something really amazing will follow. Fingers and toes crossed please, that my gut is on target today!

    Nancy Birkla
    April 10, 2004 - 09:41 pm
    Well, the miracle is currently unfolding. Lots of communication from CT tonight. Big news coming tomorrow. As soon as I can, I will share it first with all of you, our good friends here at SeniorNet!

    Diane Church
    April 10, 2004 - 09:51 pm
    Nancy, your post #257 said exactly what I was thinking. This just could be the best thing that could possibly have happened to make the public at large aware of how things are. It's sad to see the mentality of those in charge but, by golly, if that's the way it is let's get things out in the open and changed!

    Onward!

    Nancy Birkla
    April 11, 2004 - 05:27 am
    Well, Ginny has been kind enough to send me instructions for getting some articles in nice looking shape before posting, but due to time constraints this morning, I'm going to just wing it as quickly as I can w/out getting fancy.

    Last night lots of news began coming in concerning the "jumping of sides" of some big CT officials, and leading the parade (if you can believe this one) is now Attorney General Blumenthal !!!!

    I'll write more later this afternoon, but for now I want to share some BIG NEWS with you, our good friends at SeniorNet, because you are the ones who helped us right when we really needed it most.

    What follows, my friends, is what happens when you take the high road, when you keep talking 'til it feels like your head will explode, and when you don't give up hope that a miracle really can follow . . .

    Nancy Birkla
    April 11, 2004 - 05:29 am
    A Sorry Chapter For Prison Officials April 11, 2004

    How's this for a stupendous achievement? Barbara Parsons Lane, a domestic abuse victim who's been incarcerated at York Correctional Institution since 1996 for manslaughter, has won a prestigious $25,000 writing award from the PEN American Center.

    The annual prize was established by actor Paul Newman and author A.E. Hotchner to honor a U.S. resident "who has fought courageously, despite adversity, to safeguard this country's First Amendment right to freedom of expression."

    Lane won for her essay in "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters," an anthology edited by Wally Lamb and written by women at York, a maximum security prison in Niantic. The book is a product of a writing workshop taught for five years by Lamb, a novelist and resident of Mansfield.

    The award will be presented to Lane's son and daughter on April 20 at the Pierre Hotel in New York City.

    So, what's been the reaction of the state Department of Correction? Its first impulse was to halt the writing program - which had been praised by the agency's spokesman as "therapeutic and innovative" - confiscate the women's computer disks and chastise prison employees for their involvement.

    A March 29 memo from Dorthula Green, principal of York's school program, to staffers says: "Effective immediately, all activities related to the Wally Lamb writing group are suspended. Students involved in this program will not engage in any activities related to this program. Computers, other equipment, time, space in classrooms are not to be used."

    It seems that Green's feelings were bruised and her nose bent out of shape because she wasn't properly informed that Lane had been nominated for the PEN award.

    Even though Lamb apologized to Green for the oversight, her decision to suspend the workshop and banish the author from the premises was backed by higher-ups in the correction department. That is, until last week, when e-mails were exchanged, the rhetoric heated up and entreaties were made on Lamb's behalf by state Rep. Denise Merrill and Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, among others.

    The incident was fast becoming a public relations nightmare for a prison system that is fond of touting its education and rehabilitation programs.

    By Thursday, correction spokesman Brian Garnett was saying that the writing workshop was "temporarily on hold" and that the computer's hard drive had been seized and the data transferred to disks to ensure their preservation.

    What's more, Garnett said, the correction department is grateful to Lamb and proud of the accomplishments of the women at York. Prison officials have a strange way of showing their appreciation.

    This is but the latest chapter in a long-running controversy that flared early last year when Blumenthal, at the behest of then-Commissioner John Armstrong, sued eight contributors to the book to recover some of the $117 per-day cost of their imprisonment. Lane, who was sentenced to 25 years, suspended after 10, for killing her abusive husband, had racked up $339,505 in costs when the lawsuit, which is pending, was filed.

    Several officials, including Blumenthal, believe the "cost of incarceration" law was too broadly drawn and unevenly applied. A provision in a proposed prison overcrowding bill would limit the law's reach so that inmates could be sued if they receive windfalls, such as inheritances or lottery winnings. But the law would not apply to royalties from a book's publication.

    "What these women did is a form of rehabilitation," said Rep. Michael P. Lawlor, a sponsor of the bill. "They're in prison, they're being punished. We don't want to remove all hope of redemption."

    Blumenthal said that, in his view, the $25,000 PEN prize shouldn't be considered a windfall but a byproduct of Lane's skill and achievement.

    In the introduction to "Couldn't Keep It To Myself," Lamb writes: "We are a paradoxical nation, enormously charitable and stubbornly unforgiving. We have called into existence the prisons we wanted. I am less and less convinced they are the prisons we need."

    With all due respect, the prisons appear to be less of a problem than their misguided overseers.

    Michele Jacklin is The Courant's political columnist. Her column appears every Wednesday and Sunday. To leave her a comment, please call 860-241-3163.

    E-mail: jacklin@courant.com If you want other stories on this topic, search the Archives at ctnow.com/archives.

    Nancy Birkla
    April 11, 2004 - 05:31 am
    Attorney General Seeks Change to Inmate Asset Law

    Associated Press

    April 11 2004

    HARTFORD, Conn. -- Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said Saturday he is pursuing a change in a state law that permits state officials to recover incarceration costs from inmates.

    His statements came one day after a female inmate whose work was featured in a book written while behind bars was announced as the winner of a $25,000 prize in defiance of the law.

    "There is a need to refine and improve it so that it does not apply to income earned after someone is released from prison, and impede the return to productive activity," Blumenthal said.

    Barbara Parsons Lane, who won the award, is among the inmates who participated in a writing course taught by best-selling author Wally Lamb at York Correctional Institution. Their work became the basis for the 2003 publication "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies from our Imprisoned Sisters."

    Each of the women is entitled to $5,600 from publisher Harper Collins following release from prison.

    The state went to court last year to seize the royalties at a rate of $117 per day under a regulation that permits authorities to go after inmates' assets. Lane received a bill for $339,505.

    "We are of course underscoring our concern over the state of Connecticut's actions," PEN American Center director Larry Siems, who heads the center's Freedom to Write and International Programs, said in a written statement about the award.

    Siems said the women, who did not write about their crimes, were targeted for their work. He said they were penalized, intentionally or unintentionally, for freedom of expression.

    Blumenthal said the proposed changes would exclude income gained from rehabilitative activity or training while in prison, or following an inmate's release.

    He said he is hopeful a settlement can be reached that excludes Lane's prize money. He declined to discuss details.

    "I believe that a settlement is possible that will satisfy all of the interests, most particularly the public interest, as well as the first amendment interests of the authors and the law enforcement and fiscal interests of the state," he said.

    Lane, who has been incarcerated since 1996 on a manslaughter conviction, will still be in prison on April 20 when the award is given in New York. Her son and daughter will accept the prize.

    Meanwhile, media reports Saturday said the writing program had been temporarily suspended. Brian Garnett, spokesman for the state Department of Correction, said the decision was made pending "reassignment of staff."

    Lamb told The Norwich Bulletin he was unsure of why it was temporarily suspended, and the Day of New London he was hopeful the writing program could continue.

    He called Lane's award a victory.

    "This is a victory for all of the writers in the group and for all those who have been published in the volume," Lamb told The Day. "Freedom of speech is a cherished American right, and it should be celebrated."

    Copyright 2004 Associated Press

    Ginny
    April 11, 2004 - 04:27 pm
    Whoop!!!!

    Oh my gosh, I can hardly believe my eyes!!!

    YAY YAY YAY!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YAY!!

    And MORE MORE MORE to come tomorrow, can you stand it? hahaahah

    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Thank you, Nancy, for that wonderful news!

    Ann Alden
    April 11, 2004 - 04:43 pm
    to all who have sent emails to the powers that be in CT about these women who are trying to improve their attitudes and their lives. I glad to hear that all might turn out okay, according to the last article.

    BaBi
    April 12, 2004 - 01:06 pm
    WHAT GREAT NEWS!! If Connecticut makes this change in their laws, other States with similar laws might take notice and do likewise. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

    In reading the first two articles, I got the impression, confirmed by the following article posted by Nancy, that the halt to the program was entirely due to a miffed Ms. Green. And the Department spokesman is busily trying to mend fences. (Maybe the staff changes will include Ms. Green??)

    A round of applause is in order, I think, for Wally Lamb, for Pen/Newman Awards, for Nancy and Ginny.

    [APPLAUSE!! APPLAUSE!! APPLAUSE!!

    Traude S
    April 12, 2004 - 05:51 pm
    NANCY, congratulations! I couldn't be happier for you all. This is truly a vindication for the tireless work Wally started, for your commitment and for everyone who was present at the creation of the book. A proud moment all over again for Barbara Lane. Onward!

    Hairy
    April 13, 2004 - 01:57 pm
    HOORAY!!! And thanks to Mal, too, for all of her work and to those who wrote letters to various individuals! Watta GREAT BUNCH!!!

    Hairy
    April 13, 2004 - 02:00 pm
    Whoops, guess I've forgotten some of the html.

    Nancy Birkla
    April 14, 2004 - 09:45 am
    Please forgive me for remaining very quiet about the things that have been going on since the AG's press release last weekend. Many confidential and sensitive dynamics remained, concerning ongoing issues and negotiations, until all involved came together for a big meeting yesterday.

    With a great sense of relief and immense joy, I can now share with all of you the results from the meeting:

    http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/stories/20040414/localnews/226872.html

    For the first time in my life, I'm feeling like I've been involved in making a real difference in my world. I've never before worked so rigorously or persevered so strongly concerning any issue I've felt strongly about.

    Sure, I've written letters, sent e-mails, and made phone calls to legislators over the years, but never have I done so to the extent that I went for this one. And right now, at this moment, the countless hours I've spent networking with kind and caring folks, literally from around the globe, well my gratitude over all the resulting support we've gained along the way is really unmeasurable!

    I want to thank all of you, once again, for all the kind words and comments you've posted over the past several months and especially for the letters of support that were written to CT's lawmakers, on behalf of the women from CKITM -- you really did help to make a difference!

    I'm going to now include a text version of today's article, in case the above link ceases to work after a few days.

    Bless you all!

    Local News - Wednesday, April 14, 2004



    Suspended prison class gets reprieve By DAVID PENCEK and FRANCIS McCABE Norwich Bulletin



    WETHERSFIELD -- The York Correctional Institute creative writing program will be reinstated, along with the teachers that helped bring about its success.

    Meanwhile, inmates will be allowed to keep royalties from the book "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters," in an agreement reached between the inmates and Attorney General Richard Blumenthal. The inmates were being sued by the state to use the royalties to pay for the cost of their imprisonment. The writing program was suspended March 29 after inmate Barbara Parsons Lane won the prestigious PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award for her contribution to the book that best-selling author Wally Lamb edited. The award carries a $25,000 prize.

    York officials removed prison teacher Dale Griffith, who ran the program, and barred Lamb from meeting with his students after they had failed to inform prison supervisors that Lane had been nominated for the award.

    Program reinstated After a 90-minute meeting at the Department of Correction headquarters Tuesday, Lamb announced that Commissioner Theresa C. Lantz agreed to reinstate the writing program and place Lamb and Griffith back in charge. No timeline has been set for when the program will be back up and running.

    Blumenthal, state Rep. Denise Merrill, D-Mansfield, and Larry Siems, director of PEN's Freedom to Write Program, also attended. "The program will definitely be restored and resumed," Blumenthal said.

    He added that Lamb will be allowed to meet with his students "as soon as Mr. Lamb's schedule permits and the commissioner can make whatever arrangements are necessary. So far as the state is concerned, there's a clear intent to continue the program and we want to cooperate with Mr. Lamb in every possible way."

    While DOC officials have maintained none of the work by the inmate writers had been destroyed when the program was suspended, Lamb said it was still unclear how much work had been lost. "I appreciate the commissioner's commitment to investigate this matter and to do everything possible to recover deleted materials," Lamb said in a prepared statement.

    Settlement Hartford-based lawyer Steve Ecker, who represents the inmates in litigation initiated by the state, said the terms of the settlement should be finalized within the next few days. Blumenthal announced Saturday that he wanted to revisit the law to exempt income inmates receive from rehabilitative activities or training, such as the writing program.

    "The cost of incarceration should be paid by prisoners when they have the capacity to do so," Blumenthal said. "But they ought to receive the benefits of genuine rehabilitative activity because we need to provide incentives for them to lead law-abiding and productive lives."

    Blumenthal said he won't go after the prize money from the 2003 book because it is the result of skills learned from a rehabilitative program.

    Lane was convicted of manslaughter due to emotional duress and has been serving her sentence since 1996. Each of the inmates featured in the book is entitled to $5,600 from publisher Harper Collins after their release from prison. The state went to court last year to seize the book's royalties at a rate of $117 per day under a state law that permits the state to recover incarceration costs from inmates. Lane received a bill for $339,505.

    "Everybody wants to put this behind us. My clients, the last thing they wanted was litigation. They want to be let alone to do their writing and continue their rehabilitation," Ecker said. "Frankly, I hope this controversy adds momentum to the effort to refine the law," Blumenthal said.

    fjmccabe@norwich.gannett.com dpencek@norwich.gannett.com The Associated Press contributed to this story. Originally published Wednesday, April 14, 2004

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    Ginny
    April 14, 2004 - 10:03 am
    a miracle! It really is a miracle, thank you for telling us this, Nancy, and congratulations to all of you, makes you humble to see it, a miracle!!

    How nice of you to include US in this victory, Nancy, how good of you to be here at all, and how privileged we feel to have been in on this from the beginning, to be a part of it, it's a real miracle!


    Rejoice!!!!


    Celebrate!!

    Malryn (Mal)
    April 14, 2004 - 10:57 am
    That's what I've been waiting for ! Very, very good news. I'm very happy about this.

    Mal

    Hairy
    April 14, 2004 - 01:40 pm
    Wonderful! I am proud to be even a small part of this group.

    Congrats to all!

    Linda

    kiwi lady
    April 14, 2004 - 02:02 pm
    That is great news! So happy for Wally, Dale and all the women in the program. Money waiting for them when the prisoners are released will make all the difference. Nancy you must be walking on air!

    Carolyn

    Lou2
    April 14, 2004 - 02:43 pm
    Celebrate good times is right, Ginny!! Nancy, thanks so much for being our faithful news reporter!! High Fives!!! Girl Friend!!! LOL

    Lou

    Ella Gibbons
    April 14, 2004 - 02:59 pm
    CONGRATULATIONS, NANCY, WALLY LAMB AND ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH REVERSING THAT DECISION AND GETTING THE WRITING PROGRAM REINSTATED. MARVELOUS JOB!

    ZinniaSoCA
    April 14, 2004 - 03:26 pm
    I could hardly see through my tears of joy and gratitude to finish reading about this magnificent outcome. God bless you, Wally, Dale, all the women in the book and everyone who has supported these women and this effort. Please let them all know, if you can, how much we all believe they deserve this outcome. You are truly a group of heroes to me!

    Love and hugs,

    Karen

    JimsGarbo
    April 14, 2004 - 03:43 pm
    What Can we all say.!!!! Excellent News.!!! Don't post very often, even though I read the messages, but this deserves Credit where Credit is Due. Way to Go.!!!! I love to read books, but a posting like the one Nancy gave to us, is worth lots and lots of books....

    Hats
    April 15, 2004 - 04:33 am
    Wonderful, Wonderful News!!! I am happy for all!!

    pedln
    April 15, 2004 - 08:59 am
    Absolutely fantastic news! ! This should be the Human Rights story of the Year. Congratulations to all who made it happen.

    BaBi
    April 15, 2004 - 11:47 am
    AMEN TO ALL THE ABOVE!!

    Nancy Birkla
    April 16, 2004 - 04:12 am
    Thanks everyone for all your wonderful and supportive comments. I've printed and sent them all off to Barbara and asked her to share with the others. So now, in keeping everyone in "the loop" -- well, it's not really over yet. Here's the latest AP release concerning an ongoing investigation re: purged writings:

    Inmate writing destroyed following controversy April 14, 2004 Associated Press

    HARTFORD, Conn. -- Prison officials destroyed computer files containing inmates' personal writing days after a prisoner won a national writing award, best-selling author Wally Lamb said.

    Lamb, who teaches a creative writing workshop at the York Correctional Facility in East Lyme, said Wednesday that 15 women inmates lost up to five years of work when officials at the prison's school ordered all hard drives used for the class erased and its computer disks turned over.

    "It flies in the face of the First Amendment," said Lamb, whose book "She's Come Undone" was a 1997 best seller after being endorsed by Oprah Winfrey.

    Department of Correction Commissioner Theresa Lantz halted the writing program on March 29 after learning that inmate Barbara Parsons Lane had won a $25,000 PEN American Center prize for her work on the 2003 book "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies from our Imprisoned Sisters."

    Lantz met on Tuesday with Lamb, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, state Rep. Denise Merrill, D-Mansfield, and PEN American Center director Larry Siems. She said miscommunication between Lamb and herself about the writing award led to the shutdown, but that the rehabilitative program will continue after it is reorganized.

    The commissioner is investigating the writings being deleted, said Correction Department spokesman Brian Garnett.

    "She is aware and obviously concerned about what Mr. Lamb as told her, and she has pledged to look into it further," he said.

    Ginny
    April 16, 2004 - 04:45 am
    thank you Nancy, again and again, it looks to me like "Mr. Lamb" is a regular Mr. Deeds goes to Washington, there, I can't imagine what this is taking out of him, whadda GUY! (But we knew that!)

    I'm so glad they are listening, I'm thinking computer files are never REALLY erased and they SHOULD be recoverable.

    I hope so, I had a computer crash and Gateway said they got MY files back and some of them are gibberish, but if their computers are still workable, I hope they can get their work back. Despite having been deleted, it's still there somewhere.

    Nancy Birkla
    April 16, 2004 - 08:49 am
    This morning I received the following reply, concerning a letter I wrote to Larry Siems who is Director of the PEN Organization's Freedom to Write and International Programs. Since I sure consider all of you among our "24 hour a day, 7 day a week" support network, I thought it only fair to share his nice response with you:

    Dear Nancy,

    Thank you so much for your lovely, lovely letter. All I can say is that it's a tremendous honor to be able to lend a bit of support to Barbara, her peers, and all those who form their 24 hour a day, 7 day a week support network. You are all incredible.

    I look forward to having a chance to meet you in person!

    Yours, Larry

    :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) and by the way, the big smiles are all from me!

    BaBi
    April 16, 2004 - 11:53 am
    Interesting. Originally, it was reported that a woman named Green had stopped the program and cleared the computer files. Now we're hearing Commissioner Theresa Lantz is responsible. What happened to Green, I wonder?

    Thanks, Nancy, for sharing that very nice note from Larry Siems with us. Your letter must have been pretty great, too, since he describes it as a "lovely, lovely letter". If you kept a copy, is it something you could share with us? Just a thought... Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    April 16, 2004 - 02:23 pm
    Babi,

    I'd be happy to share the letter I wrote to Mr. Siems; however, since I mentioned something specifically that happened during the BIG meeting last Thursday, I need first to find out if confidentiality copncerning meeting specifics has been promised. If Wally says it's OK, well then yeah, I'll post what I wrote.

    Ginny
    April 17, 2004 - 06:40 am
    I've had a beautiful letter from Barbara Lane, whose handwriting, if handwriting is any evidence of character, so far exceeds mine it's all I can do to hold it in my hand. We have super exciting and thrilling news for you about another contact we have in York Correctional Institution, now, and he's given me permission to quote his words, and so I will.

    Here you are hearing from Joe Lea, who is the Librarian of York Correctional Institution, who definitely looks forward to working with us, both in our Books Donation Programs and in our Grant!!! He says this,


    It is truly wonderful to know that an organization like your cares so much about people who would otherwise go unnoticed.

    A good book in prison is sometimes as important as a letter from home, especially if you have few friends and family on the outside. I can not explain to you how much the women love finding good books and sharing them with each other. They devour books, so anything you send will be greatly appreciated.

    The library is a wonderful place for the women. It offers the entire compound general reading materials, books, newspapers, and magazines, it also serves to support the school curriculum with nonfiction and reference books as well as hosting the prison book clubs. We have two adult book clubs, a young adult book club and we will be starting a Spanish Language book club in the future.


    I see that Book Club there, do you??

    Now this obviously very kind wonderful man and WE will form an alliance, we've had some good news with our first ever book donation, and some more good news regarding our Exchange and a possible now involvement with two MORE states, so the ball is definitely rolling. We will need that grant if we continue to send books, if you're interested in helping us with that, Joe has agreed to brainstorm WITH us, please look up in the heading for the red Prison Grant Initiative and click on it and come on down. I want to get something moving before I leave if I can.

    Nancy, it would seem you are right about the jails and we are going to intensify our outlook there as well, and THANK you for considering as part of the 24/7 SUPPORT TEAM, we're definitely proud to be on it.

    I think Barbara would be willing to answer some of our questions and seems very glad to hear from us, let's set up some kind of encouraging correspondence here, I'm about to write her back and I know Nancy is also, and let's see if there's anything you'd like to ask.

    I am truly so excited for her, she says that Dale put YOUR writings and responses in the library and it meant a lot to them, and you can see Nancy continuing to send us on (good on you NANCY, what would we do without YOU) and all of YOU who have made this village of caring! Hey we've only been at this a couple of months!! This is VERY exciting, to me, thank you all!

    This is the good news, there may be some unsettling news yet to come, we'll weather that like we have the rest: we ARE making progress and helping others right there from your own kitchens, dens, or wherever you are typing, rejoice!

    BaBi
    April 17, 2004 - 08:21 am
    GINNY, you said a first book donation had already been made. Did those books come from SeniorNet, or from individuals? Or was this a cash donation to buy books? I only ask because I didn't see any request for books from us reader/posters.

    The advantage of funds, of course, is that the librarian knows what (s)he already has and what is wanted. Do you think librarians at participating prisons could furnish you with 'wish lists', so we could check to see if we have anything wanted on our shelves? Or if our library was clearing things off their shelves that would be welcome in the prison library.

    Babi

    Malryn (Mal)
    April 17, 2004 - 10:50 am
    Did you see this article in the New York Times today?

    GingerWright
    April 17, 2004 - 02:44 pm
    Thank you so much for that article, it means so much to me see it and know people care about people, rehabilitation will also help the crime wave in the world. I could go on and on but the readers all ready know or we would not be here.

    Ginny
    April 18, 2004 - 10:09 am
    thank you Malryn for that article, it's something ELSE, I'm hung up on one of the things he said in it, sort of haunting me, more on that later on, and thank you Ginger, for those remarks, I agree.

    Babi, you asked, you said a first book donation had already been made. Did those books come from SeniorNet, or from individuals? Or was this a cash donation to buy books? I only ask because I didn't see any request for books from us reader/posters.

    Babi, it's a donation of books, a lot of books, from a very prestigious organization.

    THIS, our very first successful collaboration, is in the process of taking place between a very famous organization and US, the details are being worked out as we speak, the "higher ups" are being consulted for final approval, so until that last shoe falls I can't announce who and how many, but there's enthusiasm all around, and it's truly a wonderful and exhilarating thing that has just happened. Until they finalize these last approval steps, I can't say who it is, but when I do you'll all be blown away, truly. I've just been sitting on it for more than a month and it's hatching and I had...just HAD to say it's going thru and we will all be so excited!!!

    The advantage of funds, of course, is that the librarian knows what (s)he already has and what is wanted. Do you think librarians at participating prisons could furnish you with 'wish lists', so we could check to see if we have anything wanted on our shelves? I think that's a good idea, or vice versa, we could furnish them with lists of what we have on offer in our very famous Book Exchange, too?

    Or if our library was clearing things off their shelves that would be welcome in the prison library. Probably, since we have such great collaboration with the York CI Librarian, I say let's use it to their best advantage!

    Thank you for that input, MUCH appreciated!

    BaBi
    April 19, 2004 - 07:54 am
    I am all agog. So much exciting news appearing here! I'm going to ask our local librarians what they are currently doing with discarded books, and whether it would be possible to route some of them to the prison system. ...Babi

    Ginny
    April 20, 2004 - 05:35 am
    Good for you, Babi! GO for it, that's another state we can claim! Did you all know we're listed on the first page of google under Prison Education? And I do see several others in the top 9 that might benefit us and that we'd like to collaborate WITH and I had yet another letter last night on this from yet another prison, this is really getting exciting, we'll have to organize ourselves here just to handle the requests and various exchanges, and Betty has some super ideas in the Grant discussion, come on down!

    Well today's the day, is it? Today Tom Brokaw will give out the presigious PEN/Freedom to Write Award/ Paul Newman Foundation in New York City, and Barbara says that her son and daughter will be there to receive it for her, isn't it nice to know that $25,000 is hers to keep? Very exciting here, that's something they can all share the glory in, I hope to hear many fine reports of the ceremony here!

    Big day today for all of us, go look up Prison Education!! on google!

    Bonnie Foreshaw writes a very nice letter (the penmanship of Barbara and Bonnie blows me away, if I could write like that I would never type again, I'm ashamed of my poor handwriting) but anyway Bonnie writes a very nice letter and that she does answer all her mail so if you're interested in writing either Bonnie or Barbara, email Nancy who is our long suffering but gallant conduit, you will be quite amazed at the letters you get! I am just so happy for all of them today!!

    Nancy Birkla
    April 20, 2004 - 01:05 pm
    Ginny, you have no idea exactly how big today is, although soon (very soon I'm told) I'll be able to disclose even more incredible news.

    For now, though, here's an article in today's USA Today (which is really just more of the same stuff as has been written other publications over the past week):

    http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2004-04-19-prison-book_x.htm

    In the real deal (newspaper form) Barbara's photo from the book appears. I found out about this one in time to go out and buy a couple of copies from a news stand. Now I can send one to Barbara.

    Today is also the Book One event in CT (poor Wally, who has been vacationing with his family since last weekend)had to fly into CT today for the Library Assoc. event, then he'll be high tailing it to NY City for the PEN Awards tonight; then he's slated for another REALLY BIG interview tomorrow morning, after which he'll be able to get back with his family to finish the rest of the vacation -- what a guy, huh?

    Joan Pearson
    April 21, 2004 - 05:47 am
    Here's a bit of news directly related to the Prison Education Initiative you have been working on here. Not Nancy's BIG NEWS, but it should make a difference to the women in the York facility.

    You've heard of the PEN/Faulkner Literary Prize for Contemporary Fiction? (Not to be confused with the PEN/Newman prize Barbara Lane received, but under the same PEN umbrella...)

    The PEN/Faulkner receives many submissions for the prize each year. Yesterday they decided to direct 150 books to the York facility at the end of June. They cited warm relations between P/F and Wally Lamb, as well as the relationship between P/F and SeniorNet (both of us are Reading Promotion Partners at the Library of Congress' Center for the Book.)

    These are really nice, new hardcover books of contemporary fiction, which should make a nice addition to the library at York. Thank you, PEN/Faulkner!

    Nancy Birkla
    April 21, 2004 - 06:18 am
    I guess it's OK to disclose this, since it's already appearing in print in multiple publications today. Here's a link to a story about yesterday's "One Book" event, held in Mystic CT. You'll notice while reading it that THE 60 MINUTES cameras were rolling as Robin Cullen read an excerpt from Barbara's Lane's CKITM essay. They've been rolling for over a week now, and they continue rolling today -- AND, it's firm now; 60 Minutes will be telling our story soon on prime time TV.

    For now, here's one article from yesterday's events:

    http://www.theday.com/eng/web/newstand/re.aspx?reIDx=8A9D13C5-F60F-4A8A-B927-E24910D66432

    Nancy Birkla
    April 21, 2004 - 06:41 am
    I wonder if Wally knows about this? I don't think so, as he hasn't mentioned it to me, but I'll forward this news on to his assistant, Aaron today. I'll also forward the info on to Larry Siems, director of PEN's Freedom to Write division. I'm sure he'll be most pleased to hear about this too, as he has quickly become a great friend and ally to all of us associated w/CKITM and also to other incarcerated women at York.

    This is soooooo exciting for me -- first all the change in the legal arena in CT, and now this. It really reinforces the notion that once in a while we really can facilitate change as the result of a lot of hard work, so bravo to all of you (and to me too -- patting myself on the back right now).

    On a more personal note, I'm especially pleased that this first "partnership" is w/PEN Faulkner, since much of what Wally and all of us women believe to be true about writing mirrors William Faulkner's philosophy concerning his own life and writing.

    Here's a link to William Faulkner's acceptance speech from when he won the Nobel prize back on Dec. 10, 1950. On publication day of CKITM, one of my former professors presented me with a lovely matted and framed copy of the speech, which I love, especially because it reminds me that Faulkner himself was basically an addicted outcast, who understood the value of writing from within, despite what his outside mess of a life looked like.

    http://www.nobel.se/literature/laureates/1949/faulkner-speech.html

    anneofavonlea
    April 21, 2004 - 06:49 am
    Middle of the night down under, couldn't sleep, so came out here and delighted with your post and the article.The great thing about seniornet is this way it has of allowing friendships, with people from all walks of life and all over the world.I am so proud to have met you via the net, and so glad that all looks so hopeful for all involved.May God continue to bless you, as you continue in this great endeavour.Congratulations

    Anneo

    ALF
    April 21, 2004 - 08:01 am
    This is just another warm example of how each one of us can reach out and touch anothers life. We CAN and we DO make a difference.

    Ginny
    April 21, 2004 - 08:30 am
    ISN'T this exciting! 60 Minutes! Pen/Faulkner Award donation of 150 books!!! Well done Joan Pearson! I'm very proud of all of us this morning and I do like the way Nancy puts it: our first partnership, I like that, well done! Won't be the last, we have others branching out as we speak, let's hope we make a 100 collaborations!

    I agree, Andreaa, also, things are really rolling now, this is wonderful, thank you eternally, Joan P!

    BaBi
    April 21, 2004 - 09:29 am
    What wonderful messages and articles to find waiting for me here. One quote from the article on Barbara Lane and the PEN/Newman award says, IMO, what is most needed:

    “There's been a change in her being able to find her voice." These were the words of Barbara Lane's dtr., Andrea Graham.

    There was also a mention in a sidebar of an ex-inmate author singing "Can't Keep It To Myself". I didn't know a song of that title had been written. Where can I find the words? (Just the words, I wouldn't be able to understand a recording.)

    I'm going to be telling everybody about the '60 Minutes' show re. CKITM, PEN/Newman and Barbara Lane...AND Seniornet! I trust Ginny to give us a 'heads-up' when it is aired.

    I am so proud of Ginny and SN, Nancy, and everyone involved in what is happening!! ..Babi

    GingerWright
    April 21, 2004 - 09:38 am
    Applause


    Well done, Ginger

    Nancy Birkla
    April 21, 2004 - 12:59 pm
    And for the record, singing this song is always included in our book reading/signings. Tabbi does it solo if she's there, since she's such an awesome singer; but we've all sung it together, and in Atlanta last year, Wally sang it "a capella."

    At home I have a link saved to an audio clip of Tabbi singing the chorus during a radio interview. I'll try to get the link posted too.

    Here are the words, except in "our" version, the word "nobody," rather than "anybody" is used.

    Said I Wasn't

    Words and music: Traditional Arrangement: George Pendergrass © 1994 Clifty Music (BMI) Lead: George Pendergrass

    Lyrics:

    Said I wasn't gonna tell anybody But I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself

    Said I wasn't gonna tell anybody But I couldn't keep it to myself What the Lord has done for me

    Chorus: You oughta been there (oughta been there) When He saved my soul (saved my soul) You oughta been there (oughta been there) When He put my name on the roll I'll keep walking and I'll keep talking And I'll keep singing and I'll keep shouting What the Lord has done for me (for me)

    Said I wasn't gonna sing about it But I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself

    Said I wasn't gonna sing about it But I couldn't keep it to myself What the Lord has done for me for me

    Repeat Chorus

    Said I wasn't gonna preach about it But I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself No, I couldn't keep it to myself

    Said I wasn't gonna preach about it But I couldn't keep it to myself What the Lord has done for me for me

    Repeat Chorus

    Oh said I wasn't gonna shout about it But I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself

    Said I wasn't gonna shout about it But I couldn't keep it to myself What the Lord has done for me for me

    Repeat Chorus

    Said I wasn't gonna pray about it But I couldn't keep it to myself No, I couldn't keep it to myself No, No, I couldn't keep it to myself

    Said I wasn't gonna pray about it But I couldn't keep it to myself What the Lord has done for me for me

    Repeat Chorus

    Said I wasn't gonna shout about it But I couldn't keep it to myself Oh No, I couldn't keep it to myself No, I couldn't keep it to myself

    Said I wasn't gonna shout about it But I couldn't keep it to myself What the Lord has done for me for me

    Repeat Chorus (x3)

    (With Overlap) (I'll keep walking and I'll keep talking And I'll keep singing and I'll keep shouting) What the Lord has done for me (I'll keep walking and I'll keep talking And I'll keep singing and I'll keep shouting) What the Lord has done for me What the Lord has done for me (for me)

    Scriptural Reference:

    "Our mouths were filled with laughter, our tongues with songs of joy. Then it was said among the nations, 'The Lord has done great things for them.' The Lord has done great things for us, and we are filled with joy." Psalm 126:2-3

    JoanK
    April 21, 2004 - 04:43 pm
    "The Lord has done great things for us, and we are filled with joy."

    hat wonderful news to find when I return!! You guys are all GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BaBi
    April 22, 2004 - 12:28 pm
    What a great song. That's the kind my church loves to sing. ...Babi

    patwest
    April 22, 2004 - 01:26 pm
    I read here regularly, and your efforts are showing great results.

    Yesterday, at the library where I volunteer, I was telling the librarian about our web site for "Couldn't Keep It To Myself." Then I went on to explain that it 'mushroomed' to include this discussion and the Prison Grant Initiative.

    I logged on to SN and showed her Joan Pearson's post # 294. She was very impressed.

    BaBi
    April 23, 2004 - 12:00 pm
    I also talked about what was happening here with one of our librarians. Didn't think to log on SN there. I told her about the PEN/Newman award, and about the books-to-prison partnership with PEN/Faulkner. She thought all this was great.

    Their own withdrawn books go to the "Friends of the Library" annual booksale, which in turn uses the money to help the library. I believe this is true of most small libraries. The extra funds helped our library update their computer systems last year. It would appear we're not likely to obtain many books from such libraries for the prison systems. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    April 24, 2004 - 09:07 am
    I guess I no longer have the link I sent during the CKITM discussion, but I've found a rather lengthy archived radio interview from last Feb., between talk show host Diane Rehm and Wally, Robin, and Tabbi. Within the interview, Tabbi sings a chorus of the song. After clicking onto the link, just scroll down to Feb. 27th, and click onto the audio icon.

    http://www.wamu.org/dr/2003/drarc_030224.html

    Nancy Birkla
    April 26, 2004 - 05:14 pm
    Tentatively, the Wally Lamb/York CI 60 Minutes story will air on Sunday, May 2nd. I'll confirm as soon as I'm told the date is firm.

    Ginny
    April 27, 2004 - 05:23 am
    WOW! Nancy, how exciting, we'll send out a letter as soon as you tell us more, this is wonderful, we'll get to see "our own Wally Lamb and Dale and the class," WHEE, this will be incredible! Thank you for letting us know, we await more news excitedly, can't get a lot bigger than that except for the Nobel Prize which I am certain Wally Lamb will win one day!

    We are moving into the planning stage now in this and the Grant discussion, our main focus now is to find prisons WITH librarians so we can engage those people in conversations about what their needs are. If we begin, as we plan, shipping books from our Book Exchange, and of course the PEN/ Faulkner awards, we will need funds, we need to brainstorm ways and means of getting those funds, we're small but mighty, what we need now is for people to see if they can send out letters or contact the prisons in their states and see where they have libraries, we need to start with prisons and libraries.

    Once we have a contact in a prison (and it can also be a university taking classes TO the prison, if any are) then we can have a contact person IN that system, that's our immediate goal, does that sound feasible?

    Thank you, Pat, for reporting your efforts at your local prison and library! Every step COUNTS!

    WE have to start somewhere, there are a LOT of awards being given out, let's get set up to channel more of the left over books, let's dream BIG!

    Who can you write/call contact in YOUR state?

    BaBi
    April 27, 2004 - 11:30 am
    So soon! Thanks for the alert, Nancy. I've put May 2 on my calendar, pending confirmation.

    I'm going to try to contact the prison authorities via e-mail, to see if I can find out who/where re. prison librarians here in Texas. I'll let you know if I have any success. ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    April 28, 2004 - 04:20 am
    I spoke w/Wally last night. The decision concerning whether the 60 Minutes segment can be edited and ready for airing this Sunday will be made tomorrow (Thurs. 29th), although the 2nd is indeed the day the network is shooting for. S/N is on the short list for notification, so as soon as we receive confirmation ourselves, we'll pass the word on to Ginny, after which I'm sure everyone else will be alerted soon afterwards :0).

    And now for today's article from Wally's hometown newspaper:

    State lawyers honor Lamb By DAVID PENCEK Norwich Bulletin

    Wally Lamb probably deserved a week like this after fighting hard to keep the York Correctional Institution creative writing program alive.

    First, the best-selling author, along with a fellow writing-program teacher, Dale Griffith, conducted a writing class Friday with the inmates at the prison for the first time in three months.

    That was followed by his beloved Boston Red Sox sweeping three games from the New York Yankees over the weekend.

    Then came news Tuesday that the Connecticut Bar Association is honoring Lamb with its Distinguished Public Service Award. The award has been given since 1951 and recognizes a Connecticut resident who "has made significant contributions to society."

    Previous winners include playwright Arthur Miller and Hall of Fame baseball player Jackie Robinson.

    Lamb will receive the award June 7 at the CBA's 2004 annual meeting at the Omni New Haven Hotel.

    The award came as a surprise to Lamb, who said it was a great relief to return to his students at York.

    "We wanted to get back to business as quickly as possible and I'm happy we did," Lamb said. "I was nervous as I always am, but once I sat around the table with the students, it felt like there was no interruption."

    Lamb was relieved to hear that most of the previous work the women did had been salvaged off their computer hard drives.

    The writing program was suspended in March shortly after inmate Barbara Lane Parsons won the PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award for her contribution to the book "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters."

    After a meeting between Lamb, state corrections Commissioner Theresa C. Lantz and state Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, the program was reinstated April 13 and the state also came to a settlement with the women over their royalties from the book.

    Lamb will return to the prison May 6 for his next writing session. He said the program will expand to include desktop publishing.

    "This has all been difficult, but if it's taken this to have what the program does reaffirmed, then so much the better," Lamb said.

    dpencek@norwichbulle tin.com

    Email this story

    Originally published Wednesday, April 28, 2004

    Ginny
    April 28, 2004 - 04:40 am
    Whoop??

    Congratulations, Wally Lamb!! So well deserved!


    By gum, I sure am glad I don't have heart trouble, associating with Wally Lamb and Co. is so exciting, I don't believe I could stand much more! hahahaahha except of course that the man IS going to win the Nobel Prize, watch, watch, I predict it!

    THANK you Nancy for this wonderful news, so well deserved, we'll hang on fingernails for the news of the 60 Minutes airing!@

    wHEEEEEE

    The Man is incredible!

    BaBi
    April 28, 2004 - 08:11 am
    I'm so glad most of the women's work was able to be salvaged. I hated the thought of so much hard work thrown away.

    It is so great to come in here and almost daily learn of new honors being heaped on Wally Lamb and/or the work of the inmates. As Ginny said, EXHILARATING!! (The attached is an apt photo, I think.)

    ..Babi

    Stephanie Hochuli
    April 28, 2004 - 10:19 am
    Babi,, Wow.. that is some firestarter. I live in a lightning state. Florida, but never saw one quite that spectacular. I am so thrilled for Wally and the women who worked so hard and seemed to not be able to win. I know the women must be proud of him. Are the ones in prison allowed to watch TV.. Can they get to see the show?

    JoanK
    April 28, 2004 - 11:29 am
    GREAT, GREAT, GREAT!!! I run out of superlatives. All these prizes just show that letting people really here others voices opens up all kinds of things.

    BABI: what a great picture. May I copy it for my files? I am fascinated by thunderstorms. I saw "ball lightning" for the first time a few days ago.

    Florida does have more thunderstorms than anywhere else in the US.

    BaBi
    April 28, 2004 - 12:29 pm
    Of course you can copy it, Joan. I assume it is in the public domain or I wouldn't have been able to copy it myself. The picture was so beautiful, I had to remind myself that was a fire starting down there. ..Babi

    JimsGarbo
    April 28, 2004 - 12:54 pm
    What more can I add than "Congratulations" to Wally and the ladies involved. !!!!! This man has done so much more than he will ever realize and who knows what the future holds.!!!

    As for the hard drives, I am so very glad that most of the work was able to be recovered. Let's hope that nothing else like that happens. And of course, Wally being able to go back to the correctional institute is just great.

    We all love good news like this

    Marlene

    Malryn (Mal)
    April 28, 2004 - 12:57 pm
    Congratulations to Wally Lamb!

    Mal

    Dorthy
    April 29, 2004 - 12:10 pm
    I was able to buy Wally's book just today; small town with one bookstore. Anyway, it is waiting for me to read it and I'll write morewhen I'm finished. Dorthy

    Ginny
    April 29, 2004 - 01:53 pm
    Dorthy!!! Welcome!!
    You made it in! What a grand surprise to see you here, Dorthy is brand new and she's a fan and we're delighted to have her here joining us!

    She's been trying to get in here forever!

    Just to pass along the word, I think you all know but the 60 Minutes show will be delayed past Sunday, but we're moving right ahead here, we have people fanning out contacting their local jails and prisons, to see if we can get some contact people to:

  • Brainstorm what they need that we might be able to supply, and
  • Set up something where we can offer some encouragement and hope and contact.

    In addition I'll be writing Barbara Lane back this week and if you'd like to send greetings or ask her anything, just click on my name and email me and it's done.

    In addition Bonnie Foreshaw, as noted, says she does answer every letter, so we can keep up our correspondence and see if there is anything we can offer that any of those engaged in this work in the prisons might find useful in their programs, it's very exciting to be doing this, I think and you all are welcome, on Monday we will begin talking about the first two chapters of the Grant Writing for Dummies book in the Grant Initiative, see heading and click, and before I leave on vaction we'll see how many people we have been able to contact and get up some questions to ask of them, it's good to be doing this, am very grateful to each of you, for your help.

    Lou, Babi and Nancy are contacting administrators, etc., very exciting to hear about!
  • Ginny
    May 1, 2004 - 07:23 am
    OH wow I had a wonderful encouraging letter from THE MAN himself yesterday, saying wonderful things about our two initiatives and outreach here, and telling about the awards ceremonies and I hope we will see some of this on the 60 Minutes broadcast, now scheduled for May 9, but it could be preempted, do stay tuned.

    He says Tom Brokaw led a standing ovation for Barbara Lane and the other writers, and that Paul Newman sent a video tribute to all the writers accomplishments, and both include our own Nancy here, it must have been magic, this entire thing has been magic.

    This work has the most incredible discouraging lows and then the most exalted highs, it's just a privilege to be associated with it. And we are making a difference, now we have a really promising lead into our shipping of our books, one of our Discussion Leaders is pursuing it, and we'll have more news soon there, keep on working and reaching out to the various prisons in your area, we soon will have even more to report on our end!

    Congratulations again our Nancy!

    Come on down to the Prison Grant Initiative, grab a copy of the Grant Writing for Dummies and be IN on the ground floor, you will be proud to say you were!

    ginny

    Nancy Birkla
    May 1, 2004 - 11:11 am
    Several weeks back, Andy Thibault, an author and columnist from CT, sent me an article he published, concerning a controversial inmate "book discussion," that recently has also become a target for the CT DOC's ludicrous first amendment-related "shoot to kill" spree.

    Because I try to veer away from religious issues in public forums, I did not pass the article on; however, after reading a subsequent response via a letter to the editor that was written by a prison official, and also since it does involve reading, a book discussion in prison, and rehabilitative potential, I've decided to copy and paste the original story along with a couple of responses, the last, my own!

    Here's the original story:

    It Ain't Human; Don't Pretend It Is By ANDY THIBAULT, Columnist Law Tribune Newspapers April 12, 2004

    The worst crime a prison inmate can commit is to pretend he or she is human. Woe to the staff member who expresses any hint of such a belief. Take the case of Peter Ventura.

    Ventura is serving a long sentence for sexual assault. During the last 20 years, however, he has spent a significant portion of his time studying the Bible. By all accounts, Ventura's devotion to the good book is genuine. Guards have been impressed. Some have even prayed with him, until the higher-ups said to knock it off.

    "Peter is a serious student, he has done well in his theological studies and most importantly has endeavored to put into practice on a daily basis what he has learned from the scriptures," Dr. Vince Massa, pastor of Landmark Baptist Church of Stamford said in an open letter two years ago. "I am sure that if you are receiving a good report about Peter's conduct he would attribute it to his relationship to the Lord Jesus Christ and his study and practical application of the Bible to everyday living."

    Ventura also served a few years of his Connecticut sentence in New Hampshire, where he earned praise for his volunteer efforts and work with community groups. "This letter is to state that you helped with probationer prison tours," a New Hampshire parole officer wrote to Ventura several years ago. "You spoke to those participating to communicate the reality of life in prison in hopes that they would choose not to continue to make choices which would land them behind institutional walls."

    Back in Connecticut, Ventura has been evaluated as a good candidate for therapy and sentence reduction. "He has made significant progress towards re-entry into the community, not only participating in programs but also in his day to day interactions with staff and inmates," a supervisor at the Cheshire Correctional Institution wrote in 1998.

    Since 1998, Ventura says, he has been praying with groups of inmates. Typically, inmates are allowed to associate in prison dayrooms for card games, dominos, chess and other similar activities. Some gamble or view pornography.

    In February of this year, Ventura claims, he was told that his Bible study group constituted "an illegal worship service." He was warned that if he was caught in the dayroom with a Bible again he could face disciplinary action.

    Ventura asked in a letter to friends whether the public would rather have convicts return to the street having learned "the moral values taught by Jesus Christ," or as card sharks.

    In March, Ventura prepared a pro se brief for New Haven Superior Court, accusing Cheshire staff of illegally interfering with his right to practice his religion. He is asking the court to order the Correction Department to stop violating his rights. He seeks $1 in monetary damages and under $3,000 in punitive damages to be donated to a non-profit organization selected by the court.

    Knowing how the Correction Department operates, they will probably have some flunky assert that they just love and support religious freedom. After all, they provide such great psychiatric care while fighting against the establishment of a Patient Bill of Rights. There's probably some great security threat from these guys reading the Bible outside of the chapel.

    "I am confident that whenever Peter is released from prison and living on the outside that he will be able to live a fruitful and productive life," Pastor Massa said. "I also realize that when a person has been incarcerated for as long as Peter has that he will need help to acclimate back into society. I, and the people at Landmark Baptist Church, are willing to help Peter with that transition and will gladly work with the state of Connecticut towards that end."

    Ah, but what about Ventura's jailers. Certainly the good pastor can help them as well.

    And here is a letter to the editor, sent in by a prison official (in response to the article):

    You, your columnist Andy Thibault in his article published April 18 and your readers are at risk of being conned by inmate Peter Ventura of the Cheshire Correctional Institution who has complained he is not allowed to read and study the Bible. That is untrue.

    The Department of Correction sees religious services as an integral part of the rehabilitative process. Staff chaplains are supplemented by hundreds of dedicated religious volunteers from the community who together offer a total of more than 75 different collective religious services and programs, including Bible study. In fact, there is a chaplain-led Bible study in inmate Ventura's protective custody housing unit, but he chooses not to participate. He wants to be a "leader" himself, and that is not allowed.

    Prisons have rules and regulations. Ventura was violating Department of Correction policy when he was conducting a collective religious activity (his Bible study group) in the unit dayroom.

    Ventura speaks of the need to have convicts learn "the moral values taught by Jesus Christ." One of those values, found in his Bible (Heb. 13:17), is the need to submit to legitimate authority.

    In this particular case, I would suggest that means following Department of Correction policy. Of course, he is always free to also participate in the chaplain-led Bible studies in his housing unit to learn these moral values.

    THE REV. ANTHONY J. BRUNO

    Director of Religious Services

    Cheshire Correctional Institution

    What do I have to say about it? Here it is:

    Jeeze, imagine that -- dangerous weapons and activities that now include Bibles and Bible studies, in addition to pens, paper and writing workshops; what will those devious criminals come up with next?

    BaBi
    May 1, 2004 - 01:31 pm
    Much as I would like to side with Mr. Ventura in this matter, the Rev. Mr. Bruno has a point when he explains that there are many bible and religious study opportunities available, including one in Mr. Ventura's unit. Mr. Ventura does not want to participate in someone else's group; he wants to lead his own.

    All institutions have 'rules and regulations', and I do not see that Mr. Ventura is being denied the practice of his religion. He is being denied the right to 'do his own thing'. One of the things I suspect he still needs to learn is the necessity of living within legitimate rules. Submission to legitimate authority is a Christian principle. ...Babi

    Deems
    May 1, 2004 - 01:41 pm
    I don't know the facts of this case except as they are printed in the article, so I don't know whether to support Ventura or not.

    But I have long been wary of jail-house conversions (and death-bed conversions as well). I just don't know how one sorts out those who are using religion to better their own situation from those who have genuinely found faith.

    Ginny
    May 1, 2004 - 02:07 pm
    My goodness what an interesting article, the issue seeming to be the right to conduct a Bible study group-- (is that what you all see as the primary issue?)

    It appears that the Connecticut Department of Correction position is that


    [they see] religious services as an integral part of the rehabilitative process. Staff chaplains are supplemented by hundreds of dedicated religious volunteers from the community who together offer a total of more than 75 different collective religious services and programs, including Bible study. In fact, there is a chaplain-led Bible study in inmate Ventura's protective custody housing unit, but he chooses not to participate. He wants to be a "leader" himself, and that is not allowed.


    I am not sure how to interpret what I am reading here, "Staff chaplains are supplemented by hundreds of dedicated religious volunteers from the community who together offer a total of more than 75 different collective religious services and programs, including Bible study," but he's not one of them.

    I would have to ask why? As I reread it, it appears that all of those who conduct Bible and religious study are outsiders, community volunteers and clergy? Perhaps NO prisoners are allowed to conduct Bible studies? I don't know?

    We don't know if any other prisoners lead Bible study in the Connecticut prisons.

    Usually in the case of Bible study, volunteers meet and take it for themselves in small groups, they don't all have chaplains.

    I wonder why he's not eligible to be a "leader?"

    Thank you for bringing this article here, Nancy, as we are thus able to keep up with the news about what's going on in prison education. I am interested in hearing more about this.

    I think we would want to know why in this particular case, this man is not seen as eligible to lead a volunteer Bible study group? Are any prisoners leading them? There must be more to this story? It's good to see the support of that church for him when he is released.

    SpringCreekFarm
    May 1, 2004 - 02:16 pm
    Ginny, I would guess that Ventura can not be a volunteer within the chapel program because he is an inmate--and may not be following prison guidelines. I was a volunteer at a prison for about 4 years and we did have inmates who participated in the programs my pastor and I prepared, for example, leading prayers, singing, etc., but the leadership of the program fell on my pastor. The prison chaplain occasionally attended our program. We went in on Wednesday evenings. Other churches took other nights. It sounds as if Ventura is attempting to operate outside the system. And was it Maryal who was somewhat skeptical about prison conversion? This is a common problem in almost every jail and prison. Programs to teach writing, literacy, etc. are really the best ways to rehabilitate those in need of it in prison. However, there are some statistics that support attendance at chapel programs as lowering the rate of recidivism. Sue

    Nancy Birkla
    May 1, 2004 - 02:52 pm
    I guess where I'm coming from is that it seems like Ventura is being denied the ability to converse, while others around him are not. What he is being denied is a particular topic of conversation in a general recreational area, where others are permitted to congregate, converse and participate (together) in activities of their own choosing. So I have a hard time undestanding what the difference is between discussing a Bible, or a magazine, or how to better oneself in the game of poker, or any other of a number of simultaneous activities going on around Ventura and his friends.

    Nobody is saying Mr. Ventura is demanding a pulpit and the ability to preach to the masses, just that he and several others want to discuss the Bible. This may be the one collective area of interest that is motivating these inmates to make connections between their own lives and how they might live a more spirtually grounded existance.

    I guess my understanding concerning Mr. Ventura's POV comes from my own experience. Even though I am a Christian, who does attend regular church services, I find traditional Bible studies boring and for the most part not congruent with my absolute need to make connections between what I read in the Bible and how it can be applied to my life today.

    Coming to grips with my own deductions concerning the loving and nurturing God of my "today," as opposed to the punishing and vengeful God of my "yesterday," became my impetus for change, and sadly the realization did not end up taking place in a charch or any other structured religious service.

    I'm sure there are many, many fine religious programs and Bible studies in prisons, that inmates can choose to attend or not. For instance, the prisone where I was an inmate had a "non-denominational" Sunday service, which was ultimately a Catholic service, officiated by a Catholic priest. Many religious denominations operate with fundamentally different approaches and ideas. Perhaps that's the case here, although I'm guessing it has more to do with Mr. Ventura, and others fearing discussing in an honest and open manner, when a prison official is running the show.

    Mr. Ventura is not asking to be put in charge of a program; he just wants to discuss the Bible, during his own recreational time, with others who want to do the same. That's what I have a problem with, and if you'll notice, in my original post, my balk is not so much that Mr. Ventura is being denied the ability to practice his chosen religion; it's that his personal conversations are being censored and forbidden. I mean, I might be able to understand it better if the subject matter of these discussions was a bit more shady, but I just can't believe it's about anything other than squelching something because it makes the inmates feel good, and what kind of punishment would it be if they felt good?

    anneofavonlea
    May 1, 2004 - 06:41 pm
    I cannot see any reason why Mr Ventura should be prevented from studying with other inmates, whatever book he chooses to talk about.It is hard to get beyond the notion that people weild power in less than admirable ways, just because they are able too.I am not sure I even agree with physical incarceration, certainly loathe the curbing of ones mental processes.

    Anneo

    Nancy Birkla
    May 2, 2004 - 05:15 am
    When discussing the situation with Mr. Ventura and his thwarted Bible discussion, I guess it's fair to remind everyone that, through personal experience, I have a very bad taste for the CT Dept. of Corrections.

    Week after week I learn of new situations that not only make no sense, but that are indisputibly counter-productive to any type of rehabilitative logic. Over and over again, DOC personel there continue not only spinning fabrications out of half-truths but blatantly lying to the public (and I'm not only talking about just the guards but high ranking prison officials and spokespersons too). It happened again just this week, on a much "closer to home basis" than this situation with Peter Ventura.

    I clearly understand that prison is prison, and it's where criminals live -- some who continue to cause trouble within. Generally, when I bring something into this discussion, it will be an issue that has already had some attempt made toward resolve, and also that is happening despite a prisoner's long track record of "good behavior" otherwise.

    Too, my past personal experience biases me, I'm sure. I can't even imagine how I would have felt had I been forbidden to carry with me or discuss either my Bible, recovery literature or any of the few resources I maintained in my effort to keep God present in my life while I lived in what felt like hell.

    GingerWright
    May 2, 2004 - 02:48 pm
    You said it all girl. Thanks

    Ginny
    May 3, 2004 - 07:32 am
    This is one MARVELOUS benefit of this discussion, we can here meet and see the news and then try to understand all the points of view and we are so fortunate to have our Nancy of course. whose own POV is one based on experience, and is so incredibly lucid and powerful, she could persuade me of anything, I would not take any amount of money for this experience. It s SUCH a valuable thing here!!!! I am so proud of all of you!

    I'm going to say for my own part, with no personal experience to call upon, that at first glance this particular article appears not well written? He does not explain WHY Mr. Ventura is denied the right to lead (you can see the spokesman saying that is not "allowed?")

    We need to know why? I see several possible issues here?

  • 1. Mr Ventura himself is being denied a right others have: others may meet and discuss Bible study?
  • Others may meet and discuss porn videos and schedule such discussions, or agree to meet at a certain time for such discussions, Mr. Ventura is not allowed.
  • Why is this ruling made in his particular instance?


  • 2. The policy is that any religious meetings or study groups must be done by outsiders:

    He is challenging THIS policy


    So this is quite interesting, Mr. Thibault has not been clear, I think, we need more facts.

    Thank you all for your input, we seem to have a wide range here of experience and opinion, where better to learn about new things, this is super, many thanks to all of you.


    Here's another article, this one on Tabby Rowley, she did try to get in here when we discussed Couldn't Keep it to Myself, and I had a delightful correspondence with her, apparently she is going to be on 60 Minutes, too, look:

    From jail to an honest life, thanks to the written word

    Randall Beach , Register Staff 05/02/2004 New Haven Register

    Tabatha Rowley has risen from mean streets, tenements and degrading prison cells to the national stardom of CBS-TVs "60 Minutes" and contributing to an acclaimed book of inmates personal essays.

    Her successful journey was made possible by a few good, caring people who encouraged her to find her voice through singing, painting and writing.

    "A prison counselor convinced me a lot of things that happened to me weren’t my fault," Rowley said as she sat in her pleasant New Haven apartment.

    "Once I realized I deserved better for myself, I started to do better."

    But she said prison life, with its body cavity searches and other humiliations, "is not a place for human beings."

    However, she and other inmates at the York Correctional Facility in East Lyme underwent invaluable therapy in a course taught by novelist Wally Lamb of Mansfield.

    The best essays, including Rowley’s "Hair Chronicles," were published in "Couldn’t Keep it to Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters."

    "Hair Chronicles" is hair-raising stuff. Rowley describes a mom who beat her, a grandmother who abused alcohol, an aunt who smoked marijuana and an "uncle" who shot up heroin.

    "Uncle Wesley," who wasn’t really her uncle, had a habit of sexually abusing her under a blanket. She was 4 years old.

    "Until now," she wrote, "I never told anyone the scariest part: what Uncle Wesley did made me feel loved."

    During her childhood in Bridgeport, she accompanied her big brothers, Pete and Choo, on stickups. Both of them were later shot to death; she said they were murdered, not killed during robbery attempts.

    When she was 23, she wrote, "My ex-boyfriend had shoved me to the ground one time too many, and I thought I was going to die. Using reasoning clouded by alcohol, angel dust and weed, my only thought was: Get before you get got."

    After she shot him, she was convicted of first-degree assault and sent to prison. She was at York from 1996 to 2001.

    Rowley and the other published writers were in the spotlight recently because state Department of Correction officials reacted badly when inmate writer Barbara Parsons Lane won a $25,000 prize from the PEN American Center.

    The officials temporarily shut down the writing program and destroyed computer files containing inmates writings, Lamb and Rowley said.

    Although Rowley’s material was not destroyed, she said, "I was hurt because I know they were hurt. Those women are my sisters. I think it was cruel."

    Brian Garnett, a corrections spokesman, said, "The intent was to preserve the writings," but he declined to elaborate. He said the writing program was suspended because of "a breakdown in communications" and that it recently resumed.

    Last year, after the writers received $5,600 each as an advance for their essays, the state went to court in an effort to seize the money at a rate of $117 per day. Officials cited a law permitting the state to recover incarceration costs from inmates.

    "It was scary being served papers by a sheriff," Rowley said, recalling the day a man came to her home with a bill for $143,000.

    "It was lowdown," she said. "It was an attempt to get money because they thought we’d be rich. But we weren’t profiting from our crimes. We weren’t writing about that."

    On April 19, the state and inmates’ lawyers reached a settlement. The inmates will pay $500 each to help offset incarceration costs.

    After she was released from prison, Rowley said the writing program and college-prep courses she took there did not help her get a job. She believes many employers turned her down because she had been incarcerated.

    But eight months ago, the New Haven Register hired her for part-time work in its telemarketing department. She was relieved and grateful.

    Rowley is also grateful that through those essays the public is learning, "prisoners are not bad people. A lot of us don’t go back. I’m living an honest life."

    The country will know more about Rowley and her "sisters" next Sunday, the tentative date set for "60 Minutes" to tell their story.



    And last, but not least, come on down to the Prison Grant Initiative we have some exciting news on all fronts!

    First off we have 2 new connections made, one by Lou and one by Nancy, one is from the point of view of people administering Prison initiatives, so helpful and exciting and one from the POV of a new prison wanting books!! These have galvanized us into action and tomorrow we'll beging methodically going thru our new reference Grant Writing for Dummies and assembling what we need, we've had some super suggestions and our work is beginnng to pay off, come read Lou2's post 42, Nancy come tell us a little bit about YOUR connection and Jane has agreed to help us organize ourselves in the Grant heading as to what we've done and the suggestions you have made, come on down there will be loads for each of you (whoever wants to help) in the PGI tomorrow!

    I am so proud of each of us here!! Never give up!
  • SpringCreekFarm
    May 3, 2004 - 12:21 pm
    Today on Montgomery's WSFA noon news, there was an interview with a person connected with the Aid to Inmate Mothers program. They are sponsoring a golf tournament to raise funds for their programs at Julia Tutwiler Women's Prison. Some of the things they do to help inmates who are mothers are:

    1) transport 100 children to the prison one day each month during which they serve a meal to the inmates and children and give each child a toy

    2) provide inmates with an age appropriate book for their children and record the mother reading it on tape. They send the book and the tape to the child.

    3) they provide classes, including parenting classes, at the prison for the inmates

    4) they provide after care for the inmates who are freed

    I thought you might like to see what one group is doing to improve the lives of female inmates in Alabama. Sue

    GingerWright
    May 3, 2004 - 12:40 pm
    what the Alabama Prisons are doing is the best News I have heard lately and is much needed in Prisons. Thanks for posting the good news.

    SpringCreekFarm
    May 3, 2004 - 12:43 pm
    You are welcome, Ginger. Actually the Prison System is not doing this, a volunteer group is. However, the Prison System allows programs such as this as they hope it will cut down on recidivism. Sue

    GingerWright
    May 3, 2004 - 12:50 pm
    I am sure that it will help keep the repeat offenders down as children need to keep in touch with there Mothers.

    SpringCreekFarm
    May 3, 2004 - 01:00 pm
    You're right, Ginger. The TV anchor who was interviewing the AIM representative suggested that some people might think children should not see their mothers in a prison situation. The AIM rep had a great answer, explaining that your mother is still your mother, many of these mothers are single moms and the children need to remain in contact with them if they are not in prison for child abuse. The anchor wasn't trying to put her on the spot, but eliciting that kind of answer, I thought. Sue

    GingerWright
    May 3, 2004 - 01:32 pm
    Who knows it may keep the children "out" of prison if they see what it is like.

    Lou2
    May 3, 2004 - 04:15 pm
    WOW!!! Sue, that's great... Do you see anything there that would be an opportunity for our grant? Could you get contact information from the group sponsoring the fundraiser? Sorry, I don't know if I've heard where you live... where was this? a wonderful thing for those moms and children... IMHO...

    Lou

    SpringCreekFarm
    May 3, 2004 - 07:36 pm
    I don't know, Lou, but I will try. I'm going out of town this week, so it may take a while. Sue

    Stephanie Hochuli
    May 4, 2004 - 11:06 am
    Now thats a forward thinking prison system. I would be very interested in hearing more about this. Sounds like something I would love to see in Florida.

    Nancy Birkla
    May 7, 2004 - 04:23 am
    COULDN'T KEEP IT TO MYSELF - When a writing workshop in a women's prison led to a critically acclaimed book, the good news drew a bad reaction from prison officials. Steve Kroft reports.

    (story scheduled to air this Sunday, May 9th)

    Nancy Birkla
    May 7, 2004 - 05:38 am
    Here's a link to the 60 Minutes page:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtml

    Ginny
    May 7, 2004 - 07:09 am
    Hoo, thank you Nancy, we'll be there with bells on and VCR's rolling! HOOO! When it's over everybody come in and talk with us about it here!

    Thank you so much for that wonderful information, Sue, I agree with Ginger and Stephanie and Lou that is a marvelous idea, thank you for bringing it here, we need every idea that every person is doing to help us formulate our own plan!

    Hooo hoo, SHOWTIME here, very exciting, don't fail to come in Monday and let us know what you THINK!!

    Rah Rah WALLY LAMB AND CO!!

    wheee

    Dorthy
    May 7, 2004 - 01:28 pm
    Hello! All. Wrote my first letter to Barbara Lane yesterday and I discovered, after I mailed it, that I had failed to put her inmate #251222 on the inside or outside of the letter. If they return it to me I will correct that. Otherwise I'm letting everyone and Barbara know I'm new at this. I've already made a couple of mistakes, so maybe I'm on the road to getting it right. Ginny has been very helpful with this older lady.

    Nancy Birkla
    May 8, 2004 - 04:33 am
    Heard from Wally last night -- our story is scheduled to run first, right at the start of the show.

    Later!

    Nancy Birkla
    May 9, 2004 - 04:32 am
    60 Minutes to Cover Inmate Writing Controversy By DAVID PENCEK Norwich Bulletin

    The controversy over the York Correctional Institution's creative writing program led by author Wally Lamb is about to be retold on a national scale.

    "60 Minutes" airs its investigative story tonight on the writing program, the book "Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters" the program produced, and the efforts taken to suspend the class and recoup money from the women who had their stories published.

    "It's ironic that (the state) settled the lawsuit and put no claim on the royalties at the exact time when the book was receiving the maximum amount of attention," "60 Minutes" co-editor Steve Kroft, who reported the story, said during a phone interview. "It's almost as if the State of Connecticut wrote the last half of a screen play."

    As of Friday, the story was scheduled to be the lead item on "60 Minutes." Kroft's interviews include Lamb, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, former inmates and Barbara Parsons Lane, the inmate who won the PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award in March for her contribution in the book.

    The writing program was suspended shortly after Lane was announced as the award winner. It was reinstated in mid-April and the state settled with the writers and publisher.

    The settlement didn't help the fact that some of the women's writing was erased, but most of it has been retrieved from their computers' hard drives. Blumenthal told Kroft during his taped interview that an investigation would take place regarding the destroyed writing and he would not only condemn what happened, but would prosecute the offenders.

    On Friday, Blumenthal confirmed that there is an investigation into possible destruction of prisoner property and the state will take action if there was willful and illegal deeds involving the inmates' writing.

    "We're seeking to determine has it occurred and who was responsible," Blumenthal said.

    Lamb has held one class since the program restarted and will return to visiting the prison twice a month.

    "It's an interesting story and I'm relieved and happy it had a good resolution," Lamb said. "I think people around the country are interested in the controversy as well as the writing program."

    Lamb's work with the women in the program has been impressive, Kroft said.

    "Whatever he is doing there he's getting remarkable results," Kroft said. "This is something that needs to be encouraged, not discouraged."

    dpencek@norwichbulletin.com

    Email this story

    Originally published Sunday, May 9, 2004

    Nancy Birkla
    May 9, 2004 - 04:33 am
    Happy Mothers Day to all!!!

    Ginny
    May 9, 2004 - 04:20 pm
    Thank you, Nancy, the same to all of you, and what a present we all just had!!!

    I guess you saw our own Nancy Birkla's photo on 60 Minutes!!!

    Hoooo, THAT was beautiful! Wasn't that beautifully presented? My respect for 60 Minutes has just hit a new high.

    Goooo Wally!! Gooo Tabbi!!! Nancy and Robin, go go!! hahahaa
    I swear the man is a saint, you can see the goodness in his eyes, can't you? He needs the Nobel Prize. OH I just loved that!!

    Nice looking class, oh I loved it!! Oh WOW~!!!

    Weren't Tabbi and Nancy (wasn't that Nancy Whiteley? Who visited here with us?) and Robin fine!!!

    WHEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    And listen, apparently there's more news about the class that may involve a connection with us, fingers crossed till we hear for sure!

    WHOOOooooooooooooo I just LOVED that!

    Nancy Birkla
    May 9, 2004 - 06:29 pm
    Ginny, you're so funny; I swear I heard your hollering across 3 states -- could hardly hear the show above all that squealing!!!

    Here's a link to a "synopsis" of the story on the 60 Minutes site:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/07/60minutes/main616203.shtml

    I'm pleased with how the story was presented and was soooo excited to see Robin, Tabbi, and Nancy W. (yes Ginny, that was Nancy). Also, I was happy to be able to see see Barbara, Brenda, Bonnie, and Michelle on film too.

    Here's one thing I'd like to know -- tell me what you thought of AG Blumenthal, especially concerning his final comment (when asked if pressure from 60 Minutes, PEN, etc. influenced his decision to drop the lawsuit); he stated, "My feeling was we should do the right thing."

    patwest
    May 9, 2004 - 07:44 pm
    60 minutes was great... They gave Wally and his writers a full 20 minutes of positive coverage.

    Blumenthal's answer was certainly a non-answer. But then politicians seldom give a direct answer.

    pedln
    May 9, 2004 - 08:36 pm
    That was one terrific segment. I'm so happy for Wally Lamb and the women, for the coverage they got. And they certainly came across as the thoughtful intelligent women that they are. It was pretty obvious that the Conn. authority figures were being evasive. "We don't like a lotta surprises" -- really. Good for Steve Kroft for pinning them down.

    Diane Church
    May 9, 2004 - 09:12 pm
    I'm SO glad to not have missed this! I think it showed everyone as they are - from Wally, his writers, to the prison authorities and the AG. What an eye-opener. Things need to be changed. Perhaps this will be another "first step". Nice going, everyone!

    The rest of 60-minutes was good, too. Is there something about control and some people who wind up having it, that leads them to become brutal and inhumane? What is going on here? If this is what happens when people are placed in positions of authority, perhaps we (as a society) must arrange for constant monitoring, or pre-conditioning, or SOMEthing! Didn't mean to go off topic but geez, this jumped out at me.

    GingerWright
    May 9, 2004 - 10:40 pm
    These discusions and watching 60 minutes tonight are so "Very special to me". There is No way that you can ever know.

    When I first seen and heard Wally Lamb in DC I knew he was special to me and what I felt in my heart, Keep it up wally. There was a hint of what goes on behind closed doors on 60 minutes but I will Not go in to it but it struck me.

    Thanks (Wally, Nancy and all involved including our S/N partispants in these discusions, We can make a diference around the world as was on the news tonight that disgraced our country.

    JoanK
    May 9, 2004 - 10:56 pm
    That was a great segment!! My respect for 60 minutes went way up. The two beaurocrats sounded just as slimy and dishonest as we know they are. Boy, If Blumenthat ever runs for Governor, I'm going to write everybody I ever knew opposing him. And that woman!!!!

    Of course that was Nancy W!!! She looked tired: I hope she's doing well. She, Robin, and Tabatha were great! And they sounded so much more intelligent than the beaurocrats!!! I wasn't quick enough to identify the others in the class scenes. I saw Barbara (sitting on Wally's right(right?). Nancy, do you know when that film was made?It's a shame they wouldn't let Barbara be interviewed.

    Of course Wally was great. You could hear his caring in his voice. When he talked about Barbara finding her voice, I almost cried.

    BaBi
    May 10, 2004 - 08:25 am
    A really great show on 60 Minutes! I agree with you all; our ladies came off looking great and the Conn. authorities were evasive and shifty. (Of course, 60 Minutes gets to select the footage they want to use.)

    As for control affecting people, haven't we always been told that power corrupts? And 'absolute power corrupts absolutely'? We're seeing much evidence of the truth of that lately. I think we were in the habit of thinking of 'absolute power' in terms of kings and dictators. Now we know prison guards, civilian or military, are not exempt, either. Everybody needs to be be answerable to others. ...Babi

    Malryn (Mal)
    May 10, 2004 - 12:09 pm
    I had an important phone call come in just as 60 Minutes was coming on. Did anyone make a VCR tape or DVD of the program? If so, could you possibly make me one and send it to me? I'll pay you for it and for the shipping cost.

    Mal

    Stephanie Hochuli
    May 10, 2004 - 02:52 pm
    Sorry, I never remember to video anything.. Simply not in my makeup to remember. I loved the segment. Done very well indeed. The women came across as adult caring humans and that is important. The face presented to the world is not the worlds image of prisoners. Wally reminds me a bit of Wally Cox who played Mr. Peepers years ago. Same sort of sweetness of look.

    horselover
    May 10, 2004 - 05:15 pm
    Wally reminds me of Mr. Rogers, another sweet and kind man.

    The prison officials sounded like a bunch of politicians engaging in damage control. But all's well that ends well--the law suits are dropped and the writing program saved. That's all that matters.

    Nancy Birkla
    May 11, 2004 - 05:04 am
    Sorry I'm a day late w/ posting my response to all the wonderful comments from yesterday. My work was piled up so high; I had to go in to my office early, and then I stayed late (due to budget constraints, the college has gone to a 4-day-work-week, beginning this week). After the long drive home, I was too tired to do any more than read all the posts from yesterday. Now I'm more awake, and I also have the time to do this right.

    As I've already written, I'm quite pleased with what 60 Minutes came up with. Considering the sheer volume of filming I heard they did, over the course of 2 weeks of events, how they came up with such a concise and accurate depiction of this particular story (or the story as I perceive it to be) seems really remarkable to me.

    Joan, the workshop scene was filmed just a couple of weeks ago, during Wally's first visit back to the prison since January. You mention not being sure which women were which, since the camera moved so quickly. Well, you're correct about Barbara sitting to Wally's right. The woman to his other side was Michelle. The woman who began reading her piece (long dark hair, wearing gray sweatshirt) was Brenda, and Bonnie was, of course, the brightly smiling woman wearing the hair net and looking pretty much exactly like her photo from the book -- which I guess means she's back into the workshop, after withdrawing for a while :0).

    I spoke with Robin (for the first time in several months)about an hour before 60 Minutes came on. She sounded great and much relieved about the lawsuit being settled. I filled her in on why I was unable to make my planned trip to CT for the One Book event (which was the day 60 Minutes ended up filming them), and we agreed to meet up next month when I go to CT for a vacation week.

    Robin and I met and were able to spend some time together getting to know each other during several different book-related trips I made early last year. One day, while in CT, I went with her to one of her presentations w/MADD, where I watched and listened as she bravely told the story about her drunk driving crash to a college audience (including the life-long consequences, not just her own but especially those of her victim's family). Robin is seriously dedicated to that particular program, and I believe the fact that so many members of MADD (mostly family members of drunk driving victims) have embraced her so fully speaks volumes about her as a person. I'm really looking forward to seeing her again. Dale and I hope to catch up over lunch one day while I'm there too.

    I think Robin, Nancy, and Tabbi all looked beautiful and sounded genuine, intelligent, and they also presented as the good-natured, quick-witted gals they really are. By the way, I agree Nancy looked pretty tired, but that was probably due to her having to travel so far for the one day event, as she lives in Memphis, TN these days.

    For those of you who've never met Wally and caught him on film for the first time, well, that was him exactly as I've always known him. I cried as I watched him wiping away his tears at the PEN gala. He's so kind and compassionate, and he has really great sense of humor too. What can I say, Wally's amazing and I'm so proud to be able to call him family.

    By the way, I'll tell him you're batting around who he most reminds you of, Mr. Peepers or Mr. Rogers; he'll fall off his chair laughing, as he already gets such a kick out of everyone at SeniorNet. He thinks you're all "such a hoot" (his own words).

    My husband and I hope to spend a week with Wally and the rest of my CT family next month. God-willing, both John and I will feel well enough to move forward with our planned vacation (because God knows, we need one). I saw Wally several times last year, but with the exception of one blizzard cancelled book date, when we were snowed in together for a couple of days, it's been many years since I've spent any real quality time with him or the rest my family in CT. Jeeze, and it's really hard to believe it's already been over a year since I've seen Wally at all!

    It's been a tough spring for us, but John and I both continue putting one foot in front of the other and plowing through our usual routines as well as we can. Shooting for things to remain as normal as possible has become our daily goal. By doing this, we're able to better recognize that most of the time things do feel "normal," and then we can celebrate another "just for today" victory. I'm happy to report that despite all the Drs., the tests, the treatments, and even his weekly chemotherapy, we are plowing through life relatively unscathed!

    Well, I guess that's it for this morning. Thanks again for all the continuing support!

    Ginny
    May 11, 2004 - 11:27 am
    hahaah Nancy, so you could hear me, even in KY? You should have been HERE! hahahaha

    I just love all the comments here, and the enthusiasm and aren't we proud to be a part of it, came in to say I'm off for vacation, hope your health, Nancy, and that of John will improve to the point you can get to CT this summer, thank you for spending the time you do have with us.

    You'll be in Connecticut about the time of the arrival of our book donation, maybe? After the 20th. What fun this all is. We can't ship until after the 20th, so they will have a big month what with you coming AND the books arriving.

    I just can't get over the 60 Minutes program, I was so impressed with their fine investigative reporting I wrote them a letter. That was very beatuifully put together and scripted, I think they should get a prize for that one. Everybody connected with this needs a prize, including our own group here, hahahahaah

    Thank you Nancy for identifying some of the group, when I watch it again (Malryn I have three copies, I can send you one about the middle of June if you can hold on)?? I will make it go slow, it went too FAST!!!! I could not see who was who!

    Love the look of the class love the entire thing, makes me miss teaching again, Wally was right, it does look (listen to ME calling HIM Wally) hahaha Wally for President!!

    just like any other classroom, loved it, that was a Mother's Day Gift, I am just so excited!!! hahahaa See you all later, hold the fort here!

    Dorthy
    May 11, 2004 - 01:19 pm
    The 60-minute program was awsome and I didn't record it. I know someone who did. I'll copy it. In agreement with whoever made the comment about the back pedalling "politicians." The truth is that it takes someone like the journalist, I think his name is Steve Croft, to push that and hang in there with the story; getting the full story. I'm really happy for you all. Dorthy

    Malryn (Mal)
    May 11, 2004 - 03:43 pm
    Thank you, GINNY. Sometime in June is fine.

    Buono viaggio!

    Mal

    SpringCreekFarm
    May 15, 2004 - 09:11 am
    The following article was printed in area news this morning in the Opelika-Auburn News. I am typing as much as possible. This small newspaper is not online:

    The Auburn University Center for the Arts and Humanities has received a $20,000 grant from the national Endowment for the Arts to support arts programs in two Alabama Prisons.

    The grant will help finance The Alabama Prison Arts Initiative, a creative writing program for inmates in two Alabama correctional faicilities, for 2003-2004.

    AU's Center for the Arts and Humanities, in a partnership with Aid to Inmate Mothers (italics mine, this is the group I've mentioned before) and the Alabama Writers Forum, established the writing program at the Julia Tutwiler Prison and Annex for Women in Wetumpka in 1999.

    A similar program recently began at the Frank Lee Youth Center in Deatsville, a correctional center for men.

    TAPAI also sponsors library development at the two prisons and has received more than 1,000 donated books.

    The NEA grant will allow TAPAI to stabilize and expand their programs, which will create a statewide and national model for similar programs.

    Grady Hillman, an internationally recognized arts and education consultant who has worked in more than 100 adult and juvenile facilities in four countries, praised the Alabama program.

    "Programs like the one in Alabama create a safer world for all of us," said Hillman. "At the very least prison arts programs pay for themselves."

    Previously, the AU Center for the Arts and Humanities and its partners have only been able to offer two classes per year. With the new NEA funding, however, a minimum of four classes will be offered each year. It is expected that as many as 150 inmates a year will participate in the creative writing classes.

    Jay Lamar, associate director of the AU Center for the Arts and Humaities, said the classes help expand the students' understanding of the world and their place in it. The classes focus on the creative process, self-discovery, and writing improvement through a humanities-based discussion curriculum.

    Kyes Stevens, director of communications for the AU College of Architecture, Design, and Construction, teaches many of the creative writing classes.

    "The Alabama Prison Arts Initiative is about planting seeds of vision through intellectual and creative discovery," says Stevens. "It is about helping people find hope within themselves and offering a foundational educational background in writing."

    SpringCreekFarm
    May 15, 2004 - 09:14 am
    I will try to contact Mr. Lamar and Professor Stevens here by telephone. Perhaps they can come in here and tell more about their program, which sounds very similar to Wally's in Connecticut.

    It would be nice if TAPAI would provide a copy of the grant application to NEA so that those here involved in grant writing might use it as inspiration. Sue

    BaBi
    May 15, 2004 - 09:22 am
    Sue, this is great! It fits right in with what we are wanting to do.

    Wouldn't we love to repeat the Wally Lamb type of writing workshop across the country? And the NEA has already show they are prepared to support this type of program.

    Oh, hurry back, GINNY! ...Babi

    Nancy Birkla
    May 15, 2004 - 10:20 am
    I'm really "feeling" the temporary loss of Ginny's energy here! But I'm also most pleased to see others (besides me) are continuing to check in and forge on during her absence.

    I have to take off for right now, without really posting anything significant, but I have a couple of things to bring back with me later on today. In the meantime, thanks for the info concerning the grants :0).

    Nancy Birkla
    May 15, 2004 - 04:07 pm
    I thought some of you might like to read this article concerning Wally Lamb and the NEA, since conversation here includes the possibility of ($20,000.00) awards from the National Endowment for the Arts . . .

    BIG things don't happen without BIG thinking and BIG believing first:

    http://www.nea.gov/features/Council11-01/Lamb.html

    Enjoy!

    ALF
    May 15, 2004 - 05:33 pm
    Thank you Nancy for the link. Wally is a warm, wonderful gentle man and we are so proud that we are affiliated in a small way with him and the ladies at the Correctional Institute.

    Diane Church
    May 15, 2004 - 05:40 pm
    Gosh, Nancy - Wally seems almost too good to be true. That was such an interesting link. Thanks a lot for making it possible for us to read more about him.

    GingerWright
    May 15, 2004 - 05:48 pm
    What a way to go to put that clickabale to Wally Lambs life. I enjoyed it so very much. Thank you. It explains much to me of why I was attracted to him when I first heard him as to me he was a caring, sharing type of person. The story of Wallys life speaks to me and comfirms what I thought.

    JoanK
    May 15, 2004 - 11:17 pm
    What a wonderful talk. It really shows the Wally we have come to know and love.

    Malryn (Mal)
    May 16, 2004 - 02:41 am
    Sorry, folks, I'm a writer, and Wally Lamb was speaking directly to me. I also am the mother of a son who is a paranoid schizophrenic because of a brain injury caused by a terrible automobile accident, so I'm going right out and get I Know This Much is True

    Thank you, WALLY LAMB, for reaching so many, many people.

    Mal

    BaBi
    May 16, 2004 - 07:42 am
    Thank you so much for that article on Wally Lamb, Nancy. I am already a fan of the man, and I am glad to know more about him.

    I have sent the address for the article to my son, who is that standard character: the unknown, struggling writer. (I found the humor in both men's writing to be remarkably similar. It was like reading something Andy (my son) had written.)

    I don't generally care much for modern novels, but I think I should make an exception for "I Know This Much is True". Thanks again. ,,babi

    Ginny
    June 26, 2004 - 06:27 am
    Yes, he's a gift, really, to all of us, and just think about the lives he has changed, with his books, with his volunteer work, seems that everybody who comes in contact with the man emerges enriched. That's a nice legacy?

    I've heard from Barbara Lane, who wrote a lovely letter, (and so did Bonnie Foreshaw). Barbara has become involved volunteering for Hospice there in the prison, I owe her a letter back, if any of you would like to send a letter to any of the prisoners, either Nancy or I will be glad to mail it for you, just email it to me by clicking on my name and I'll be glad to send it along for you.

    I'd like to invite you down to the Grant discussion, we're making great strides, on Monday, the day after next, OUR shipment, thanks to Joan Pearson , will go out of 150 books to the York Correctional Institution, and the Librarian there, Joe Lea, from the PEN/FAULKNER AWARD, and Joan has done a wonderful job with that and we're very grateful to her. I forgot to say this in the Prison Grant discussion and will run say it now, but come on down, it's not over? We're still in contact with Dale Griffith and Wally Lamb, Joe Lea, and the Writer's Group, come see how and why: Prison Grant Initiative and help us make a difference.

    You are ALL welcome there!

    Ginny
    June 28, 2004 - 08:57 am
    BIG news big news big news,

    Stay tuned, stay tuned stay tuned!!

    Joan Pearson
    July 2, 2004 - 10:17 am
    Well, the books have been shipped - 220 of them went out on Tuesday, Media rate - so there is no telling when they will arrive at the York Facility. It seems that the number was greatly underestimated, which is why we have so many more books than expected. Here's a photo of Janice Delaney, the Executive Director of the PEN/Faulkner Foundation - standing in front of the two large book cases brimming with books. She is so happy to be partnering with SeniorNet. You may know that PEN/Faulkner and SeniorNet are both Reading Promotion Partners at the Library of Congress Center for the Book... which is how this connection was made at the annual meeting in March.
    Janice Delaney in front of the books which are now en route to York.

    Keep fingers crossed the books are appropriate for this population.

    ALF
    July 2, 2004 - 11:47 am
    What an admirable and thoughtful deed you have accomplished. We are very proud of you and thankful that you "are OURS!"

    jane
    July 2, 2004 - 11:52 am
    Great job, Joan, on getting the donation in the first place....and then lugging them down and out and getting them shipped to York!



    Stephanie Hochuli
    July 2, 2004 - 01:20 pm
    Joan.. A person who fulfills the meaning of altruistic.. I am proud to know you through senior net.

    Nancy Birkla
    July 3, 2004 - 07:20 am
    Wow, Wow, Wow, to Joan and others involved in this wonderful effort!

    Without a doubt, your kindness and diligent hard work will make a difference in the lives of women whose paths will change as the result of your efforts!

    Joan Pearson
    July 3, 2004 - 02:13 pm
    Well, we tried - and if you could see the mouuntain of books, you'd have to say, we tried on a large scale. Before getting too too excited, I suggest we wait for the books to arrive and for the librarian and library users to decide if they are appropriate, or of interest. This is the first time to try something like this. Let's look at it as a test.

    Nancy - do you know whether or not there are men at this facility who will be using the library?

    Thanks for the thank you notes everyone - I know you all would have helped if you'd been around DC last Monday.

    Nancy Birkla
    July 3, 2004 - 08:27 pm
    Joan,

    No, there are no men at York; but I'm sure any books sent there can be re-distributed within their system.

    I'm hoping to help get something going in my own area, for a couple of men's facilities (I'm not sure about elsewhere, but around here the men seem to get shortchanged when it comes to special programs). Unfortunately, most everyone I know who takes classes and various programs into KY prisons are college professors, who are off from work for the summer. Several seemed interested in the "book club" idea I pitched several months back. By the beginning of August they'll begin coming back onto campus (to start getting ready for for the fall semester); so soon I should be able to communicate with a few of them about it once again.

    I've also found several organizations that distribute used books to prisons that allow them, and apparantly some prisons even allow paperbacks and also for books to be sent individually to inmates who request them.

    I either forgot to save or have somehow lost some bookmarks to the sights I'm referring to, but I did print some of the info out in hard copies and will look them all up once again, hopefully on Monday.

    Until then, Happy 4th everyone!

    Ginny
    July 4, 2004 - 04:41 am
    Thank you so much, Joan, I agree with all of you, she's wonderful! Your wonderful initiative has provided us with quite a supply of books for our own initiatives, and I know Joe Lea, the Librarian at York CI, is very excited, he's written even tho on vacation, that he's over the moon about this. Many thanks to you and Janice Delaney (thank you for providing that photo) and the PEN/FAULKNER organization for this splendid effort.

    As Nancy says we will soon have lots of requests for these books and it's very fine to see an onine effort making a real difference in the world. Since these two discussions somewhat overlap each other, I've posted this in the Prison Grant Initiative, as well.

    In addition Joe writes that the list we requested from him as to the needs of prisons and prison librarians is now ready and he's sending it to us by regular mail.

    We so appreciate his taking the time, on his vacation, to get this ready and to mail it, as it will give us some idea of the needs we can fill, along with Babi and Nancy's input here, we'll have a real basis to apply for a grant, as we will be needing some kind of funding in order to do all this shipping, we can talk more about that later on.

    There's more to Joan's story than she lets on, it's better than a movie and in the coming weeks we'll be telling you more of the details, such fine inspiring work here this morning! Thank you ALL, and especially Joan P and Janice Delaney of the PEN/FAULKNER!!

    If YOU, reading this, would like to help our group there at York and others incarcerated who ARE trying to make a better life for themselves, come down and help us, you can make a difference right there in your kitchens or dens, wherever you are reading this. come to The Prison Grant Initiative and help us work on the grant application and possibly make a difference in somebody's life.

    Ann Alden
    July 4, 2004 - 10:23 am
    Our Ohio Historical Society has taken a different tack when it come to the Women's Correctional Institute here in Ohio.They have inmates making(sewing) hoopskirts, knee breeches and empire gowns to be used at different historical sites here in the state.

    Making period-correct clothing requires the use of extremely tedious construction detail that isn't used when sewing today's clothing. A single female garment can take anywhere from two hours to 35 hours to produce. Despite these intimidating facts, the women at the reformatory are eager to help. While most of the women have never had any formal training in tailoring, the OHS historian said their craftsmanship on the costumes is superb and the women learn a great dea. as they sew. She trieds to give a history lesson with each pattern so it is a learning experience for ladies and by sewing the clothing, the women are learning new techniques that they can take with them into the job force.

    Although the women can choose the jobs they perform at the prison, sewing jobs are truly a labor of love. Unlike other jobs at the institution, costume making is unpaid. However, when the women leave the prison, the Ohio Historical Society will provide letters of recommendation for everyone who was involved in the project.

    The women have told Hewitt Schuricht, the OHS historian/education specialist, that sewing the costumes helps them feel like they are making a contribution. " They look forward to my visits and they thoroughly enjoy working on the costumes. You can't sew the way they do without enjoying it," says Hewitt Schuricht.

    I know our initiative here is all about books but I thought you all would like to know what else is being done to help these women do something with their lives while they serve their time in prison.

    patwest
    July 13, 2004 - 02:57 pm
    These 2 Prison discussions are overlapping and Ginny thinks it would be best to continue our posting in ---Prison Grant Initiative Workshop

    This discussion will be archived and a link to it will be posted in the heading of Prison Grant Initiative Workshop.

    It is now READ ONLY.